BEST key trap???
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Re: BEST key trap???
Once the key is trapped the core needs to be drilled out.
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huxleypig wrote:Oh my life, I didn't know they did this. What a nasty little trick! Most trap pins I have come across can be released...which sorta defeats the point of a trap pin I suppose.
Like I said I've heard of it before. I've got a thief that can't seem to stay out of my stuff at work. It sure would be nice to see his key broken off in my toolbox lock. He'd probably take off with the lock but he would still have to report his key.
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farmall wrote:huxleypig wrote:Oh my life, I didn't know they did this. What a nasty little trick! Most trap pins I have come across can be released...which sorta defeats the point of a trap pin I suppose.
Like I said I've heard of it before. I've got a thief that can't seem to stay out of my stuff at work. It sure would be nice to see his key broken off in my toolbox lock. He'd probably take off with the lock but he would still have to report his key.
It traps the key before it gets to the point the lock would open so this person would not be able to get the lock off.
If you have Best on your toolbox why not just have the core repinned?
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Riyame wrote:If you have Best on your toolbox why not just have the core repinned?
Company might require use of their padlocks?
Just a bit of a brainstorm here. Rotate the plug 10-20 degrees clockwise, drill down the last pins chamber into the plug 1/8" or so where it will trap a driver. Just make sure you have the sleeve in the locked position when you drill. Recap/reassemble the core, and your control key should be the only key that will still open the lock, as the control sleeve will prevent the driver from contacting the plug where you drilled the hole. Unlock the padlock with a screwdriver, put your core in, lock the padlock on said toolbox, and any change key that will tuen the lock will get trapped, a control will not.
I may be way off base here, not an expert with SFICs, maybe someone can tell if my idea has any validity.
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Re: BEST key trap???
Riyame wrote:farmall wrote:huxleypig wrote:Oh my life, I didn't know they did this. What a nasty little trick! Most trap pins I have come across can be released...which sorta defeats the point of a trap pin I suppose.
Like I said I've heard of it before. I've got a thief that can't seem to stay out of my stuff at work. It sure would be nice to see his key broken off in my toolbox lock. He'd probably take off with the lock but he would still have to report his key.
It traps the key before it gets to the point the lock would open so this person would not be able to get the lock off.
If you have Best on your toolbox why not just have the core repinned?
It's a padlock on a hasp. He'd probably twist the padlock off getting away. The suspect carries a master key. I could put my own lock on easy enough, but I want proof as to who it is so I can get his key taken away.
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farmall wrote:Riyame wrote:farmall wrote:huxleypig wrote:Oh my life, I didn't know they did this. What a nasty little trick! Most trap pins I have come across can be released...which sorta defeats the point of a trap pin I suppose.
Like I said I've heard of it before. I've got a thief that can't seem to stay out of my stuff at work. It sure would be nice to see his key broken off in my toolbox lock. He'd probably take off with the lock but he would still have to report his key.
It traps the key before it gets to the point the lock would open so this person would not be able to get the lock off.
If you have Best on your toolbox why not just have the core repinned?
It's a padlock on a hasp. He'd probably twist the padlock off getting away. The suspect carries a master key. I could put my own lock on easy enough, but I want proof as to who it is so I can get his key taken away.
Coat the inside of your cylinder in UV dye. Pretty hard for the thief to deny using their key on your lock if it starts glowing under a UV light. How else did the dye get there?
We used to dose fuel tanks with UV dye and then check the fuel filler necks on suspect employee vehicles. Fuel theft stopped pretty quickly.
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tpark wrote:Perhaps hidden cameras would be helpful in catching the culprit - even something like a trail cam mounted inside your locked area. The master might be a copy or a made key, therefore when it gets trapped you just have a copy, and haven't done anything but alerted the person stealing your stuff.
Knowing this a-hole he'd steal the camera. I know I doubt he has a copy we are in a smallish town and the local hardware doesn't even carry best blanks.
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farmall wrote:tpark wrote:Perhaps hidden cameras would be helpful in catching the culprit - even something like a trail cam mounted inside your locked area. The master might be a copy or a made key, therefore when it gets trapped you just have a copy, and haven't done anything but alerted the person stealing your stuff.
Knowing this a-hole he'd steal the camera.
You can get a pinhole camera and hid it in something like a book nearby.
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The viability of this idea depends on who has keys for your toolbox and what kind of keys they are, but here goes.
If you're doing this I'm assuming you have full control of the key system. If you can find a pin where the culprit's key can have a thicker wafer above it, you can make a trap core. In that chamber, drill a smaller hole into the plug in a location where the plug is rotated slightly, and file the wafer down so it will sink down into the hole in the plug. Of course, any key with the same bitting as the culprit's key at that pin location will be trapped.
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