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KEYING A LOCKED PADLOCK FROM SCRATCH.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 5:33 pm
by awol70
here I try to photo-document the important aspects of keying a locked padlock,
in this case, a high security ,stainless steel pinned Schlage paddy.
picked open.JPG
disassembled.JPG
springpin.JPG
readytofollow.JPG
followed.JPG
blankinplug.JPG
pin1.JPG
pin2.JPG
pin3.JPG
pin4.JPG

pin5.JPG

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DSC02744.JPG

DSC02749.JPG

keydone.JPG

folllowfollower.JPG
DSC02729.JPG
keyinplug.JPG
working key.JPG
success,keyed.JPG

Re: KEYING A LOCKED PADLOCK FROM SCRATCH.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 6:05 pm
by Josh
there you go... changed the order for you... i hope i got it right...

Re: KEYING A LOCKED PADLOCK FROM SCRATCH.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 6:12 pm
by USApicker
cool tutorial.=)


I have a lock similar to the brinks kw1 rekeyable padlock. It was given to me unlocked, so I took out the core. now I have the core that needs to be rekeyed but I'm having trouble picking it.what do you think I should do? maybe try bumping it?

Re: KEYING A LOCKED PADLOCK FROM SCRATCH.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 7:05 pm
by Jinglesanator
Great tutorial!

Is this the same concept as the schlage cylinder I talked about a while back?

Re: KEYING A LOCKED PADLOCK FROM SCRATCH.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 7:24 pm
by awol70
Josh wrote:there you go... changed the order for you... i hope i got it right...

close enuff, thanks josh..=)
still got a few mo' pix i missed,i will get them up asap.

Re: KEYING A LOCKED PADLOCK FROM SCRATCH.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 7:32 pm
by awol70
USApicker wrote:cool tutorial.=)


I have a lock similar to the brinks kw1 rekeyable padlock. It was given to me unlocked, so I took out the core. now I have the core that needs to be rekeyed but I'm having trouble picking it.what do you think I should do? maybe try bumping it?

first determine the keyway profile...is it schlage/wieser/american?
the brinks housekey carries spools, and i have only seen schlage keyways..
can you get a false out of the lock?

Re: KEYING A LOCKED PADLOCK FROM SCRATCH.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 10:19 pm
by awol70
Jinglesanator wrote:Great tutorial!

Is this the same concept as the schlage cylinder I talked about a while back?

identical.

Re: KEYING A LOCKED PADLOCK FROM SCRATCH.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 3:57 am
by Snor
Great tutourial. Very informative and stuff.

Re: KEYING A LOCKED PADLOCK FROM SCRATCH.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 5:40 am
by USApicker
awol70 wrote:first determine the keyway profile...is it schlage/wieser/american?
the brinks housekey carries spools, and i have only seen schlage keyways..
can you get a false out of the lock?


the keyway is a kw1-kwikset. I can get a false set, but then all the pins are binding so I press up on one and the rest fall down.

Lockylew: Fixed Quote

Re: KEYING A LOCKED PADLOCK FROM SCRATCH.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 8:53 am
by Site Admin
fantastic, good work ray.

That should help alot of people get an understanding of the process.

Lew

Re: KEYING A LOCKED PADLOCK FROM SCRATCH.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 12:06 pm
by ToolyMcgee
Cool, that's my old Schlage practice padlock. Currently keyed 828283 with 3 spool drivers. I doubt I could cut a key for it that wouldn't get stuck. If I could, but didn't know how, then this thread would have been quite helpful. Cool post. Where did you get the depth card? With a pinning kit?

Re: KEYING A LOCKED PADLOCK FROM SCRATCH.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 2:19 pm
by Wozzlock
Great stuff, I'm in the process of doing this on a Master 6321.

Re: KEYING A LOCKED PADLOCK FROM SCRATCH.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 2:33 pm
by awol70
ToolyMcgee wrote:Cool, that's my old Schlage practice padlock. Currently keyed 828283 with 3 spool drivers. I doubt I could cut a key for it that wouldn't get stuck. If I could, but didn't know how, then this thread would have been quite helpful. Cool post. Where did you get the depth card? With a pinning kit?

cool.. does yours have the stainless keypins?
(i am guessing not, with a radical bitting like yours.)
the decoder comes with the brinks housekey padlock,along with a small pinning kit.
i find this lock much more challenging W/O security pins...
(the stainless ones are a real ßIT¢# to pick.)

Re: KEYING A LOCKED PADLOCK FROM SCRATCH.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 4:26 pm
by crazy
Excelent tutorial!! (HAHA)

Re: KEYING A LOCKED PADLOCK FROM SCRATCH.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 5:13 pm
by ToolyMcgee
awol70 wrote:cool.. does yours have the stainless keypins?
(i am guessing not, with a radical bitting like yours.)
the decoder comes with the brinks housekey padlock,along with a small pinning kit.
i find this lock much more challenging W/O security pins...
(the stainless ones are a real ßIT¢# to pick.)


Actually it did have 5 stainless steel key pins, but I have repinned it more than a hundred times. Why do you find the stainless pins harder to pick? I havn't ever really noticed a difference other than they are a little slippery for a round tipped pick.

So, a brinks padlock? I don't know where to find one like that retail, but I'll keep an eye out. Ebay is bound to turn up something. Got my eye on a nice yale shrouded with the rekeyable Y1 cylinder. Makes sense they would give you the depth card with a padlock you could master key to your front door lock.

If I repinn a lock and I think I might not be able to pick it easily, lots of security drivers or just in case I jam a spring whipping on it with a rake out of frustration for example. I usually do it to a factory key I already have to save the trouble of cutting a new key. Also, good practice for key bitings straight from the factory. I probably have a hundred keys, non of them have 0 cuts, and I have never seen a factory 0 cut. The only 0 pins I have are from master keyed pin stacks I get from second hand locks on occasion. I know you didn't ask, but seeing the card made me think about it.

-Tooly