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Posted: **Sun Oct 06, 2013 11:05 am**

I have a Wilson Bohannan padlock that is fairly simple to open by raking.However,it is very difficult for me to pick it with a hook or other lifting type picks.
First,what do y'all think I'm doing wrong,and second,could this lock have security pins that I am not experienced with?
TIA

Posted: **Sun Oct 06, 2013 11:16 am**

quoted from member Gordon from another site on picking Wilsons:

"I have been picking on them for a while. It would easily go into a false set, but no further. Finally today, I said the heck with it and once it went into false set, I just decided to quadrupled the tension on the wrench. But I never got that much tension. The the plug turned. It felt as if the plug was tight in the lock. Testing the other two, they responded the same way. Very easy to set the pins, difficult to turn the plug."

Hope that helps. I know Gordons posts have aways helped me, very cool and knowledgable fellow :salute:

Posted: **Sun Oct 06, 2013 11:26 am**

rerun12 wrote:quoted from member Gordon from another site on picking Wilsons:

"I have been picking on them for a while. It would easily go into a false set, but no further. Finally today, I said the heck with it and once it went into false set, I just decided to quadrupled the tension on the wrench. But I never got that much tension. The the plug turned. It felt as if the plug was tight in the lock. Testing the other two, they responded the same way. Very easy to set the pins, difficult to turn the plug."

Hope that helps. I know Gordons posts have aways helped me, very cool and knowledgable fellow

Thanks rerun. I'm SLOWLY getting the hang of all this.Every article I read says go with light tension,but you're right; these WB locks require more tension to turn the plug.Even when I rake,I have to apply more tension to this particular lock.
And yeah,Gordon has already helped me out some,and I've only been on here about a month; maybe less. Seems like a good fellow.

Posted: **Sun Oct 06, 2013 11:30 am**

No security pins... that I've ever seen or felt anyway.

HERE's some gutshots and HERE's a vid along with a brief description of my how I approach WB's

Might be somethin' in there that helps. I like WB's

Posted: **Sun Oct 06, 2013 1:01 pm**

one more tidbit of info ive found to work well when having trouble with a new lock is to go with HEAVY tension. many will tell you to use light tension when picking, and of course its all about finding the right balance, but whenever i get stuck on a lock i go with really heavy tension and find success. i probably have xeo to thank for that hehe. heres a great link that'll help you out: http://www.keypicking.com/viewtopic.php%20...%20of+tension

Posted: **Sun Oct 06, 2013 4:00 pm**

Oldfast wrote:No security pins... that I've ever seen or felt anyway.

HERE's some gutshots and HERE's a vid along with a brief description of my how I approach WB's

Might be somethin' in there that helps. I like WB's

Great stuff there,Oldfast; thanks. I notice you pick with the tension tool at the top of the keyway.How does it not get in the way of the first pins?

Posted: **Sun Oct 06, 2013 4:02 pm**

rerun12 wrote:one more tidbit of info ive found to work well when having trouble with a new lock is to go with HEAVY tension. many will tell you to use light tension when picking, and of course its all about finding the right balance, but whenever i get stuck on a lock i go with really heavy tension and find success. i probably have xeo to thank for that hehe. heres a great link that'll help you out: http://www.keypicking.com/viewtopic.php%20...%20of+tension

I have been using heavier tension when I rake the WB,but it is still more difficult for me to use the lift method. BTW,I couldn't make your link work.

Posted: **Sun Oct 06, 2013 7:21 pm**

DennisK wrote:Great stuff there,Oldfast; thanks. I notice you pick with the tension tool at the top of the keyway.How does it not get in the way of the first pins?

You just don't want the tensor to be touching the firts pin. If you purchase a TOK tensor,
you'll see they're made much shorter. If you're making your own, make it long enough to
get a bite on the keyway, but not so long as to touch the first pin and cause binding.

Some locks and/or keyways respond better by tensioning from the bottom though.
So I'd suggest getting familiar with both. Personally, I find myself at a bit of a
disadvantage when I need BOK tension... just cause I don't use it very much.

Posted: **Sun Oct 06, 2013 7:37 pm**

Oldfast wrote:
DennisK wrote:Great stuff there,Oldfast; thanks. I notice you pick with the tension tool at the top of the keyway.How does it not get in the way of the first pins?

You just don't want the tensor to be touching the firts pin. If you purchase a TOK tensor,
you'll see they're made much shorter. If you're making your own, make it long enough to
get a bite on the keyway, but not so long as to touch the first pin and cause binding.

Some locks and/or keyways respond better by tensioning from the bottom though.
So I'd suggest getting familiar with both. Personally, I find myself at a bit of a
disadvantage when I need BOK tension... just cause I don't use it very much.

So is there a specific reason why you torq from the top,or is it just the fact that that is the way you have always done it?

Posted: **Sun Oct 06, 2013 7:42 pm**

The plug turns more evenly, giving you more feedback. Also, you do not have the tension wrench rubbing or locking against the shell of the lock, pinning the plug against the keyway.

Gordon

Posted: **Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:12 pm**

Thanks guys.I just ordered a couple Peterson pry bars.

Posted: **Fri Oct 18, 2013 8:18 am**

Got the Pry Bars.....love 'em. :smile:

Now another noob question; well actually a cry for advice. I have an Abus 34/55. This rascal is about to make me pull my hair out.The tiny plug (for such a large lock) and the narrow warded keyway is not letting me get to the pins very well.And then there are the security pins. :twisted:

Can anyone offer any advice on how to attack this patience-eating monster? Picks,technique?
Oh yeah,with the Pry Bar,the tensioner is not blocking my pick,if that helps.
TIA

Posted: **Fri Oct 18, 2013 12:59 pm**

this vid might help you out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaWqdd8imTM

Posted: **Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:22 pm**

rerun12 wrote:this vid might help you out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaWqdd8imTM

Thanks.I had already watched that vid,but didn't have any luck.Oh well,back to it!

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