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GWiens2001

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Post Sun Apr 07, 2013 1:27 pm

Re: We mustn't fail the MossMan!

Does any manufacturer make/use spooled key pins?

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Post Sun Apr 07, 2013 2:01 pm

Re: We mustn't fail the MossMan!

GWiens2001 wrote:Does any manufacturer make/use spooled key pins?

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:spkeypin: If I remember correctly, I believe Xeo told me about some that ASSA makes/uses. :spkeypin:
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Post Sun Apr 07, 2013 3:17 pm

Re: We mustn't fail the MossMan!

GWiens2001 wrote:Does any manufacturer make/use spooled key pins?

Gordon


Lab makes spooled key pins for SFIC/Best type locks.
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Post Mon Apr 08, 2013 6:21 pm

Re: We mustn't fail the MossMan!

As I look through the "High-security Mechanical Lock" book, I see only a couple with spooled keypins.
But even then, it looks like they normally only throw one spooled keypin into the mix. (e.g. DOM-S p66)

Logan wrote: :spkeypin: If I remember correctly, I believe Xeo told me about some that ASSA makes/uses. :spkeypin:
mdchurchill wrote:Lab makes spooled key pins for SFIC/Best type locks.

....sounds like they're being used a little more now days though.
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Post Mon Apr 08, 2013 7:11 pm

Re: We mustn't fail the MossMan!

ASSA does use spooled keypins in their older locks. The ASSA 700s had them fairly commonly. The ASSA ones are extremely difficult to pick... they slip past the shearline with their beveled tips and false set on you... and you can never open the lock. I've also seen spooled keypins in a Falcon SFIC. Dorma also uses spooled keypins but they aren't nearly as evil as ASSA.

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Post Mon Apr 08, 2013 7:16 pm

Re: We mustn't fail the MossMan!

Oooo.... that does sound horrid.
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Post Fri Apr 12, 2013 12:39 am

Re: We mustn't fail the MossMan!

I got the padlock back today...first, the good news! I got the lock apart and found a BENT spool pin! Also the 3rd pin is too short yet the key worked.
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I replaced both of the spool pins as they looked worn. Replaced the bottom pin, tested the lock, and it worked!!

Now, the bad news. The lock is back together, the key turns and springs back a bit and the lock will not open :(
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Post Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:21 am

Re: We mustn't fail the MossMan!

I gave in...drilled the shear line and turned the cylinder with a screwdriver and it opened.
I have the whole thing apart and now I am suspecting a bad actuator.
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femurat: They're called restricted for a reason...
Innerpicked: The more keys you carry, the more important you look
GWiens2001: Great video! Learned a lot about what fun can be had with a forklift and a chainsaw.
pmaxey83: but i first have to submit the proper forms for a new hobby to my wife
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Post Fri Apr 12, 2013 3:32 pm

Re: We mustn't fail the MossMan!

GeEEEeeZ! That old lock just DOES... NOT want to give up! LOL
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Post Fri Apr 12, 2013 4:40 pm

Re: We mustn't fail the MossMan!

I have placed all the parts in a baggie and will attempt resurrection at another time. I spent over an hour working on it last night!!
femurat: They're called restricted for a reason...
Innerpicked: The more keys you carry, the more important you look
GWiens2001: Great video! Learned a lot about what fun can be had with a forklift and a chainsaw.
pmaxey83: but i first have to submit the proper forms for a new hobby to my wife
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Post Mon Apr 15, 2013 2:19 am

Re: We mustn't fail the MossMan!

I ordered an actuator for a series 700 padlock which I'm hoping will fit.
jruther sent me a replacement cylinder a while back. We should be on the right track!
femurat: They're called restricted for a reason...
Innerpicked: The more keys you carry, the more important you look
GWiens2001: Great video! Learned a lot about what fun can be had with a forklift and a chainsaw.
pmaxey83: but i first have to submit the proper forms for a new hobby to my wife
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Post Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:50 pm

Re: We mustn't fail the MossMan!

So after a heart transplant, the ol' beast might be resurrected then.... cool.
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Post Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:08 pm

Re: We mustn't fail the MossMan!

We can hope!!
femurat: They're called restricted for a reason...
Innerpicked: The more keys you carry, the more important you look
GWiens2001: Great video! Learned a lot about what fun can be had with a forklift and a chainsaw.
pmaxey83: but i first have to submit the proper forms for a new hobby to my wife
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Post Sat Apr 27, 2013 7:04 pm

Re: We mustn't fail the MossMan!

So whats the latest on the lock jeff
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Post Sat Apr 27, 2013 9:04 pm

Re: We mustn't fail the MossMan!

The cylinder is in a box with other stuff that needs to go out to be rekeyed.
femurat: They're called restricted for a reason...
Innerpicked: The more keys you carry, the more important you look
GWiens2001: Great video! Learned a lot about what fun can be had with a forklift and a chainsaw.
pmaxey83: but i first have to submit the proper forms for a new hobby to my wife
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