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What is a False set and Counter Rotation

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Post Sun Jul 18, 2010 3:11 pm

What is a False set and Counter Rotation

Here is a video for anyone wondering what is meant by a false set or counter rotation. Very simply explained and hopefully it will help any newcomers to the locksport hobby.
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Post Sun Jul 18, 2010 3:22 pm

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informative and easy to understand very nice :cool:
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Post Sun Jul 18, 2010 4:07 pm

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Excellent vid man, Thank you!
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Post Sun Jul 18, 2010 5:58 pm

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Great Video Bouncer!!!!
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Post Sun Jul 18, 2010 6:25 pm

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And here, I was sitting around thinking that a false set, was fake picks maybe made from plastic or something as a visual aid, and counter rotation was just a lazy susan...

seriously though, nice vid! Love the tape with the mark on it, really drives the point home :)
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Post Sun Jul 18, 2010 8:57 pm

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great addition...thanks for the time saving answers most beginners will ask.
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Post Sun Jul 18, 2010 11:44 pm

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SHAZAM good video nicely demonstrated.
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Post Fri Jan 28, 2011 9:39 pm

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great video loved the way you used the line, but damn auto focus
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Post Thu Mar 24, 2011 11:31 am

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I'm guessing this video is aimed at people like me who are very new to this, if that's the case I have to say it really doesnt explain what a false set or a set is at all, just what will happen and what it feels like.
Lucky from reading and watching other videos i know what he's talking about. However if i didn't this vid would probably confuse me even more, I'd be like "right and can see it moving and i know it's in a false set because he say's it is, but what the hell is a false set??"

Good vid if you understand the workings already as it will show you what to look for, but could maybe do with a little bit more of an explaination of whats going on inside, also is there some sort of auto focus on the camara as it goes out of focus when your thumb moves into the center of the picture?
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Post Thu Mar 24, 2011 1:05 pm

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Dopug wrote:Lucky from reading and watching other videos i know what he's talking about. However if i didn't this vid would probably confuse me even more, I'd be like "right and can see it moving and i know it's in a false set because he say's it is, but what the hell is a false set??"



Simple concept really. A false set is when the THIN part of a spool pin catches on the shear line. The plug rotates slightly - but you've actually MISSED the shear line.

In other words, it's the impression that you think you are in the tiny area BETWEEN the BOTTOM of the spool and the TOP of the key pin - when in reality, there is half of the spool pin still below the shear line - blocking complete rotation of the plug.

You think you have set the pin - but you haven't. False Set. Get it? The spool pin has moved just enough to wedge the THIN part of the spool pin between the plug and bible, allowing only a slight turn of the plug.

Does that clarify things?
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Post Thu Mar 24, 2011 1:39 pm

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Yes mate that certainly does, if that information could be added to the video the video would be an excellent piece of teaching material.

I hope no one thinks i was being to down on the vid, just wanted to give a honest critique :-)
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Post Thu Mar 24, 2011 3:33 pm

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maybe this will help you. skip to 3:40



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