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Saved old railroad safe, Please help identify

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PlaneJob

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Post Sun Aug 20, 2017 4:33 pm

Saved old railroad safe, Please help identify

The whole safe:
https://goo.gl/photos/zU4SoUgkumpG6Lwg8

Hello, I recently rescued a locked safe from recycling. I know that it was used in a railroad manager's office many years ago, it's heavy (about 400+ pounds) and is locked. It's also presumed to be empty.

Can you help me identify the brand and model? I thought it was a Mosler, but the serial number on the handle doesn't seem to match the pattern of the Moslers. I found those here: http://boemosler.freeservers.com/serial.htm

The handle appears to be stamped " 3312 " over " L37245". (L37245, perhaps the L is a bad stamping of a 1 ?)

The handle / serial number:
https://goo.gl/photos/Bw38b7TA38mYzQM5A
Different lighting on serial number:
https://goo.gl/photos/iXREcbJqcodJZ3Mb6
The dial:
https://goo.gl/photos/XQfdzzMTd83vN7kDA


Once I figure out what I'm working with I'll get to cracking. The handle directly acts on the wheels, I've found Dagger's book with his links to other books but have not fully digested any of them. I'm not sure if it's a 3 wheel or 4 wheel - still learning and reading. I also watched huxleypig's video, cool stuff. I have a new hobby, I think.
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bitbuster

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Post Sun Aug 20, 2017 8:41 pm

Re: Saved old railroad safe, Please help identify

My 1st inkling is that it's a Diebold. Double L hinges with bearing washers. Rounded door corners. It may even have the K-lock.
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00247

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Post Mon Aug 21, 2017 1:55 am

Re: Saved old railroad safe, Please help identify

I would say Bitbuster nailed it. I recently picked up a Diebold that looks just like it. The Hinge finials, bearing washers, door corners, smooth dial knob, handle design with numbers all seem identical. I bought this one locked but open, I love'm that way! This one is missing the compartment door inside otherwise it is in good shape. It has four drawers all keyed differently and all four keys are still there! Here are pictures of it and the lock. The lock is different with it's round case and has a relocker if the lock is punched. The fence is on the bottom of the lock and is pushed up by the handle bolt work and the gates in the wheel pack line up at the bottom. Is this a K-lock? Please disregard that sexy wood grained paint job, it's days are numbered.

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PlaneJob

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Post Tue Aug 22, 2017 2:11 am

Re: Saved old railroad safe, Please help identify

Thank you for the help!

The safe is indeed a Diebold. I got it open and it says so right on the inside of the door. :hbg:

The interior cabinet is intact, there is one metal interior door that covers the entire interior compartment and it's missing its entire lock mechanism (though the person who removed it was kind enough to leave the 4 mounting screws.)

Inside the metal door there is a wooden cabinet with 1 metal door about 4 inches by 4 inches with a key slot. It's locked, but... HEY the key is in the bottom! Below that, a wooden draw with a keyed lock. The key is broken off in this one.

Pretty exciting.
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bitbuster

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Post Tue Aug 22, 2017 2:52 am

Re: Saved old railroad safe, Please help identify

Pics??????
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Post Tue Aug 22, 2017 4:58 am

Re: Saved old railroad safe, Please help identify

Pictures, sir:

Interior, interior door open:
https://goo.gl/photos/CLWFS6Rp7FPAJc7k9

Interior, interior door closed:
https://goo.gl/photos/4zr9PojiCqRokdHi9

Missing interior door lock:
https://goo.gl/photos/d9LpBR51Yvpi3Nma9

Interior Compartments:
https://goo.gl/photos/aT7RxiLznJxBsYY96
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Post Tue Aug 22, 2017 12:52 pm

Re: Saved old railroad safe, Please help identify

Yours looks to be a newer version of Diebold as it has the common grey inner paint with the gold stripe. Take the panel off the back of the door and take pictures of the lock and bolt work. I'll bet it has the square cased lock.

Tell us how you opened it. Was it open but hung up? Did you manipulate it? Please tell.

Bitbuster, what can you tell me about the round case lock?
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