decsec wrote:Englishjim wrote:I have tried to use a front and back tension pick,but neither will work to get tension.
I don't believe that there are dd locks on the market, where you can't apply tension. You need at least one disc ( usually the last disc at the bottom ) to apply tension with your key.
huxleypig wrote:Does the front disc spin freely? Does it rotate more than 90 degrees?
Most dd locks have a free spinning disc on the fist position ( drill protection ). Or do you mean first disc below the drill protection disc ?
I mean the first actual code disc, not any anti-drill plates. Most of the generic 7 disc cheapo ones don't even have those.
In particular I was wondering what mechanism it was in there. So the Abus X-Plus would have butterfly discs at the front and the rear which would rotate more than 90 degrees (but still both be 0 cuts) to stop you tensioning the lock (and having the tension disc be in the right place).
Millenco have a type of disk blocking system in their disc detainer that stops you moving anything until the key is fully inserted.
Both the Abus and Millenco look similar to what pictures I can find for the Oxford Hardcore. But I am guessing that it will be cheap and that if by some miracle they have not made the front disc a 0, then the back one will be for sure.