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HallisChalmers wrote:CLARIFICATION: HOMEBREWED SHORT HOOKS ARE PERMITTED!

THE IDEA IS TO USE ONLY A SHORT HOOK, REGARDLESS IF IT IS MANUFACTURED OR HOMEBREWED. RULES HAVE BEEN AMENDED ACCORDINGLY.

SEE VIDEO BELOW.

Windowstweeker wrote:i have a question about scoring, if you have a 6 pin standard pin set up, but you pick in 5 sec you would get 2pts for 6 or more pins i would say around 5 pts for time since thats a really good time spping, if its a hard biting and you get the pts for that then you just get knocked off for no securities? or do you take that into account with the time? also are spools worth more than serrations or hybrid spools worth more than regular, or how is that. Or is it a surprise?

thanks for any info

pickwizard wrote:good luck to all in this competition, i will also stand in the wings and give any support needed,

i look forward to seeing all the newbies battle this one out, have fun lads

RangerJ03 wrote:

HallisChalmers wrote:CLARIFICATION: HOMEBREWED SHORT HOOKS ARE PERMITTED!

THE IDEA IS TO USE ONLY A SHORT HOOK, REGARDLESS IF IT IS MANUFACTURED OR HOMEBREWED. RULES HAVE BEEN AMENDED ACCORDINGLY.

SEE VIDEO BELOW.

Hey Thanks for the props guys. I hope by the time this starts I'll have more time to watch you guys hammer it out.

HallisChalmers wrote:

Windowstweeker wrote:i have a question about scoring, if you have a 6 pin standard pin set up, but you pick in 5 sec you would get 2pts for 6 or more pins i would say around 5 pts for time since thats a really good time spping, if its a hard biting and you get the pts for that then you just get knocked off for no securities? or do you take that into account with the time? also are spools worth more than serrations or hybrid spools worth more than regular, or how is that. Or is it a surprise?

thanks for any info

• Picking a 6 pin lock will get you an automatic 2 points regardless of bitting, pin types, or speed;
• If you pick it in 5 seconds you may get 10 points, if (i) all of the driver pins were serrated, (ii) and the key bitting was especially hard (i.e. extreme hi-lo cuts), and (iii) the key pins were also serrated;
• A regular serrated pin would be worth more than a regular spool, but a regular spool would be worth less than a spool-serrated hybrid, and if you have high security telescopic spring–loaded pin – those are worth even more;
• Ultimately it’s a judgment call because so many variables come into play, like bitting, pins, elapsed time, etc.
• Don’t get hyper-focused on the excruciating minutia of pins vs. time vs. brand vs. bitting vs. pin stack height vs. brass vs. steel.

Windowstweeker wrote:is there any lock types you would like to see... or not see like does keyway come into play? or is it an nonaffecting variable?

HallisChalmers wrote:

Windowstweeker wrote:is there any lock types you would like to see... or not see like does keyway come into play? or is it an nonaffecting variable?

Surprise me, but yes, for the love of God and all that is good and Holy....

NO MASTER #3's!

Windowstweeker wrote:Well even if i wanted to use a master 3 it wouldnt meet any requirements you cant gut it and its 4 pins lol but ya i get your point make it interesting talk to you later

HallisChalmers wrote:

Windowstweeker wrote:Well even if i wanted to use a master 3 it wouldnt meet any requirements you cant gut it and its 4 pins lol but ya i get your point make it interesting talk to you later

Ve-e-e-r-r-y good grasshopper! You read the rules!

quaiboi wrote:crap...i feel like joining....but my locks are crap......i ony got 2 removable core locks...i'll just have a try anyway....just for fun .....gd luck to the other serious competitors!!