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Post Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:59 am

Re: American 747 disassembly

jones wrote:Why do your pics say it's a model 727?


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Thanks for the heads up - just a stupid typo - all fixed now I think.
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Post Sat Aug 23, 2014 10:16 am

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His say it is a 747. You can tell by looking at the bottom of the lock. Think your is a slider, but it is more difficult to tell by the angle.

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Post Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:19 pm

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I know its a old post but i just got mine any one open this one? how to disassembly?

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There don't seem to be a screw down the shackle hole so I'm guessing its under the shackle other side so it has to come out?

Do I drill that nub out to get to grub screw ? to remove shackle? thanks for any help you have. Oh and are there parts for it somewhere ??
no date code on it also?
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Post Thu Sep 07, 2017 2:12 pm

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spuds wrote:I know its a old post but i just got mine any one open this one? how to disassembly?

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There don't seem to be a screw down the shackle hole so I'm guessing its under the shackle other side so it has to come out?

Do I drill that nub out to get to grub screw ? to remove shackle? thanks for any help you have. Oh and are there parts for it somewhere ??
no date code on it also?


Inside the hole the shackle toe fits into, there is a screw. Remove the screw. There is a spring and a thick pin underneath it. Remove them, and the metal slider on the bottom of the lock can be slid out. Now you have access to remove the core, cam actuator and ball bearings.

To remove the shackle, once you have the lock open and other components removed, use a dental pick to work out the metallic plug (almost like solder) from the pin on the back of the lock body. Then there is an Allen set screw that you can take out. Don't remember if there is a pin behind it or not. If there is, tap the lock face down on a block of wood to get the pin out. Now the shackle and shackle spring can be removed.

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Post Thu Sep 07, 2017 8:49 pm

Re: American 747 disassembly

GWiens2001 wrote:
spuds wrote:I know its a old post but i just got mine any one open this one? how to disassembly?

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There don't seem to be a screw down the shackle hole so I'm guessing its under the shackle other side so it has to come out?

Do I drill that nub out to get to grub screw ? to remove shackle? thanks for any help you have. Oh and are there parts for it somewhere ??
no date code on it also?


Inside the hole the shackle toe fits into, there is a screw. Remove the screw. There is a spring and a thick pin underneath it. Remove them, and the metal slider on the bottom of the lock can be slid out. Now you have access to remove the core, cam actuator and ball bearings.



To remove the shackle, once you have the lock open and other components removed, use a dental pick to work out the metallic plug (almost like solder) from the pin on the back of the lock body. Then there is an Allen set screw that you can take out. Don't remember if there is a pin behind it or not. If there is, tap the lock face down on a block of wood to get the pin out. Now the shackle and shackle spring can be removed.

Gordon




Thanks Gordon! I'll give it a go the plug "removed use a dental pick to work out the metallic plug (almost like solder) " seems a little stronger then a pick would be able to remove But i'll try keep you posted Thanks again.
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Post Sat Sep 09, 2017 5:43 pm

Re: American 747 disassembly

Just know that it is not necessary to remove that plug and screw to get the slider open on the bottom and the core out. Only for removing the shackle.

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Post Sat Sep 09, 2017 7:40 pm

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GWiens2001 wrote:Just know that it is not necessary to remove that plug and screw to get the slider open on the bottom and the core out. Only for removing the shackle.

Gordon


How does one get the slider open on the bottom and the core out without taking out the shackle.
Thanks Gordon
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Post Sat Sep 09, 2017 7:58 pm

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spuds wrote:
GWiens2001 wrote:Just know that it is not necessary to remove that plug and screw to get the slider open on the bottom and the core out. Only for removing the shackle.

Gordon


How does one get the slider open on the bottom and the core out without taking out the shackle.
Thanks Gordon


To quote my post above, Inside the hole the shackle toe fits into, there is a screw. Remove the screw. There is a spring and a thick pin underneath it. Remove them, and the metal slider on the bottom of the lock can be slid out. Now you have access to remove the core, cam actuator and ball bearings. If you don't see a screw there, let me know and I'll dig my 747 out again and verify.

Femurat has a thread here somewhere where he took one apart, too.

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Post Sat Sep 09, 2017 9:17 pm

Re: American 747 disassembly

If the shackle toe is the side of the shackle that opens when you pop the lock with the key to open there is no screw in there this is the best photo i have so i think i have to take out the shackle off the lock ? completely so i would have to pull that pin ? I'll look for Femurat's post Thanks again !!!!

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Post Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:51 am

Re: American 747 disassembly

Please excuse me - been too long since I pulled apart one of these. Dug one out today, and you do need to get the solder plug out of the allen screw that holds the shackle pin. Remove the solder plug, remove the allen screw, then pull out the pin in behind the allen screw. The shackle can then be removed, and the shackle spring and the slide blocker pin below the spring. Then the slider can be slid out and the core removed.

Since the shackle is open, maybe you can use a rubber or rawhide mallet and smack the slider directly below the shackle heel (part that stays in the lock body when unlocked) and try to 'bump' the slide retainer pin and slide the slider. Have not tried that myself and am doing some drywall repair right now, so no time to try it out.

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Post Mon Sep 11, 2017 2:27 am

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GWiens2001 wrote:Please excuse me - been too long since I pulled apart one of these. Dug one out today, and you do need to get the solder plug out of the allen screw that holds the shackle pin. Remove the solder plug, remove the allen screw, then pull out the pin in behind the allen screw. The shackle can then be removed, and the shackle spring and the slide blocker pin below the spring. Then the slider can be slid out and the core removed.

Since the shackle is open, maybe you can use a rubber or rawhide mallet and smack the slider directly below the shackle heel (part that stays in the lock body when unlocked) and try to 'bump' the slide retainer pin and slide the slider. Have not tried that myself and am doing some drywall repair right now, so no time to try it out.

Gordon


Thank you Gordon its very clear now what i need to do. good luck on the drywall repair !!!
Even Duct tape can't fix stupid But it can muffle the sound ! ;-)
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