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Re: American 747 disassembly

PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 8:45 am
by jones
Gordon let me know if you want a replacement shield for your lock

Re: American 747 disassembly

PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 5:51 pm
by escapenrv
Nice job. If I ever can get one of these I'll refer back to your great photos.
Thanks for sharing....

Re: American 747 disassembly

PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 12:27 am
by jeffmoss26
Upon further inspection, there is NO screw under the shackle on my padlock.
The cover plate 'appears' like it would be removable like the pics Riy shared.
Very strange...

Re: American 747 disassembly

PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 1:34 am
by Riyame
jeffmoss26 wrote:Upon further inspection, there is NO screw under the shackle on my padlock.
The cover plate 'appears' like it would be removable like the pics Riy shared.
Very strange...


Yup, have to take the shackle out to get the steel plug out of the way to open it up.

Re: American 747 disassembly

PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 1:40 am
by jones
Riyame wrote:
jeffmoss26 wrote:I have a 747 but it looks different, will have to take pics.
I believe the current model is 748, not 787.


Correct. The current ones are called 748s. I assume the name change was due to the confusion of the planes with the same name.

Mine is a 747 with the code XFM (March, 1992). They updated how you take them apart. Instead of taking out the screw and then sliding that little metal piece out of the way you now have to take out the shackle and it will let the spring and a metal slug out. Then you can slide out this keyed metal cover. There is a divot in it that the metal slug in the bottom of the shackle hole sits in and acts like a pin at shear line.

Unfortunately I dont have a key for this one. I could send it your way Gordon :D

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We use an SC-20 keyblank & shave off/file off the bottom until it fits you may need to file a bit off the top too

Re: American 747 disassembly

PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 1:34 pm
by jeffmoss26
Riyame wrote:
jeffmoss26 wrote:Upon further inspection, there is NO screw under the shackle on my padlock.
The cover plate 'appears' like it would be removable like the pics Riy shared.
Very strange...


Yup, have to take the shackle out to get the steel plug out of the way to open it up.


I removed the epoxy and hex screw, a small steel pin dropped out, I was able to remove the shackle and spring but still not sure how the plate and cylinder come out.

My lock works so it's not a big deal, just curious.

Re: American 747 disassembly

PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:52 am
by VancouverSpecial
Hey,

I'm in the 747 club - scored an older model: old-style logo and numbers rather than letters used for the date code.

:hbg:

Re: American 747 disassembly

PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 12:29 pm
by GWiens2001
Vancouver - sliding body or retainer plug style?

Gordon

Re: American 747 disassembly

PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 8:54 pm
by GWiens2001
Well for those looking for blanks for the 747/748, the ILCO number for the blanks is A1041D.

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Just as a side note, just received a Series 748 lock made in 2011. It comes apart like my Series 747 lock made in 1983 - the same lock as in this original post!

Gordon

Re: American 747 disassembly

PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 1:56 am
by jeffmoss26
I am not familiar with that blank - can you show the reverse side?

Re: American 747 disassembly

PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 2:37 am
by GWiens2001
No problem, Jeff.

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And for those of you who are thinking that you need a large, beefy lock, and feel that the 747/748 are the one for you... here is the 748 next to the Kasp 19070X.

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But it does look beefy from the top.

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Oh, wait. That's the Kasp, too. Yes, the 747 is is a very beefy lock, and MUCH larger than most of the locks you will find in a store. But the Kasp is just plain humongous.

Gordon

Re: American 747 disassembly

PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 2:47 am
by flywheel
Why do you keep teasing me?

Re: American 747 disassembly

PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 3:32 am
by GWiens2001
flywheel wrote:Why do you keep teasing me?


Just because! :P

Gordon

Re: American 747 disassembly

PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 5:37 am
by VancouverSpecial
GWiens2001 wrote:Vancouver - sliding body or retainer plug style?

Gordon


Heya Gordon,

I have no idea. Even after reading through the thread again I'm not sure how to tell the difference. Also, I haven't yet received the lock.

Perhaps you can tell from these photos? I do like the old vintage logo though :)

American Lock - Series 747 - older model - front
American Lock - Series 747 - older model - back

That Kasp of yours is gorgeous - how did you get ahold of that beauty?

Sean

Re: American 747 disassembly

PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 7:07 am
by jones
Why do your pics say it's a model 727?