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Help finding key blank

PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 10:13 am
by candado3
I have an old Yale 905 push key padlock that I am planning to clean.
I would like to make a key for it as I don't have one.
I have shimmed the lock open and can unscrew the collar that holds the shackle.
I believe that restoring this lock would be similar to the process described elsewhere for the Yale 805F push key padlock.
This model has a warded keyway so does anyone know which key blank I should get.
Thanks, I have added photos.

I have also added a copy of the lock with info from the 1926 Yale Catalogue.

Re: Help finding key blank

PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 10:47 am
by bitbuster
I will check my Yale inventory.

Re: Help finding key blank

PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 12:31 pm
by bitbuster
Here is what I found. Sorry, some are repeated. Starting with top row, left to right and working down.
861R, 994M, 999C, 385.
999C, 996M, 999CA, 999C.
996M, 999CR, 889A, 997LA.
http://imgur.com/a/ZqT0t

Re: Help finding key blank

PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 6:31 pm
by jeffmoss26
I am checking with one of the guys on the Antique locks forum to see what 106 1/2 cross references to in Ilco. Will report back!

Re: Help finding key blank

PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2016 12:59 am
by MrWizard
I have 2 locks just like that I need about 6 blanks 999C. Been looking for them a long time. I bet that is the same blank yours takes.

Re: Help finding key blank

PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2016 8:05 am
by jeffmoss26
edit: Y201 for 5 pin, 999CA for 6 pin

Re: Help finding key blank

PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2016 9:21 am
by candado3
Thanks for the replies

These locks have 4 pins so I would guess that the 5 and 6 pin keys would not be suitable

Re: Help finding key blank

PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2016 11:47 am
by bitbuster
Just cut the keys to length or gauge from tip.

Re: Help finding key blank

PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2016 1:18 pm
by Papa Gleb
Bit is right, I impressioned many WB 5 pin padlocks with their standard A keyway using original blanks which had to be shortened to about the size of 4 pins. Same keyway, same size of body about but the pins were much smaller. The most important part is if the blank fits and if its long enough cause you can always shorten it but not the other way around. Some times, If I cant find a blank to fit, Ill look for something close to it and file whatever needs filing till it fits.

Also, do you know how to disassemble this lock? There is a very cheap and easy tool to use which will prevent you from butchering that little ring piece. I learned the hard way so trying to see if I can save you the same pain.

Re: Help finding key blank

PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2016 2:16 pm
by candado3
Papa Gleb wrote:Bit is right, I impressioned many WB 5 pin padlocks with their standard A keyway using original blanks which had to be shortened to about the size of 4 pins. Same keyway, same size of body about but the pins were much smaller. The most important part is if the blank fits and if its long enough cause you can always shorten it but not the other way around. Some times, If I cant find a blank to fit, Ill look for something close to it and file whatever needs filing till it fits.

Also, do you know how to disassemble this lock? There is a very cheap and easy tool to use which will prevent you from butchering that little ring piece. I learned the hard way so trying to see if I can save you the same pain.



I have never disassembled a padlock before so any help or pointers will be appreciated. I have watched youtube video and write-up on disassembling the 805F model and the similar miniature padlock.
Can you describe the tool that you are referring to.
Thanks

Re: Help finding key blank

PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 10:27 am
by jeffmoss26
I found a couple 999CA blanks here at work, PM me if you're interested in them.
Like Gleb said, you would just cut them down after impressioning.

Re: Help finding key blank

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 7:19 pm
by farmall