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Help finding key blank

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candado3

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Post Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:13 pm

Help finding key blank

I have an old Yale 905 push key padlock that I am planning to clean.
I would like to make a key for it as I don't have one.
I have shimmed the lock open and can unscrew the collar that holds the shackle.
I believe that restoring this lock would be similar to the process described elsewhere for the Yale 805F push key padlock.
This model has a warded keyway so does anyone know which key blank I should get.
Thanks, I have added photos.

I have also added a copy of the lock with info from the 1926 Yale Catalogue.
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Post Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:47 pm

Re: Help finding key blank

I will check my Yale inventory.
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Post Sat Sep 10, 2016 6:31 pm

Re: Help finding key blank

Here is what I found. Sorry, some are repeated. Starting with top row, left to right and working down.
861R, 994M, 999C, 385.
999C, 996M, 999CA, 999C.
996M, 999CR, 889A, 997LA.
http://imgur.com/a/ZqT0t
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Post Sun Sep 11, 2016 12:31 am

Re: Help finding key blank

I am checking with one of the guys on the Antique locks forum to see what 106 1/2 cross references to in Ilco. Will report back!
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Post Sun Sep 11, 2016 6:59 am

Re: Help finding key blank

I have 2 locks just like that I need about 6 blanks 999C. Been looking for them a long time. I bet that is the same blank yours takes.
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Post Sun Sep 11, 2016 2:05 pm

Re: Help finding key blank

edit: Y201 for 5 pin, 999CA for 6 pin
macgng: i just thought the cat was a real tiny bear
GWiens2001: Great video! Learned a lot about what fun can be had with a forklift and a chainsaw.
pmaxey83: but i first have to submit the proper forms for a new hobby to my wife
xeo: i root for the kernel
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Post Sun Sep 11, 2016 3:21 pm

Re: Help finding key blank

Thanks for the replies

These locks have 4 pins so I would guess that the 5 and 6 pin keys would not be suitable
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Post Sun Sep 11, 2016 5:47 pm

Re: Help finding key blank

Just cut the keys to length or gauge from tip.
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Post Sun Sep 11, 2016 7:18 pm

Re: Help finding key blank

Bit is right, I impressioned many WB 5 pin padlocks with their standard A keyway using original blanks which had to be shortened to about the size of 4 pins. Same keyway, same size of body about but the pins were much smaller. The most important part is if the blank fits and if its long enough cause you can always shorten it but not the other way around. Some times, If I cant find a blank to fit, Ill look for something close to it and file whatever needs filing till it fits.

Also, do you know how to disassemble this lock? There is a very cheap and easy tool to use which will prevent you from butchering that little ring piece. I learned the hard way so trying to see if I can save you the same pain.
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Post Sun Sep 11, 2016 8:16 pm

Re: Help finding key blank

Papa Gleb wrote:Bit is right, I impressioned many WB 5 pin padlocks with their standard A keyway using original blanks which had to be shortened to about the size of 4 pins. Same keyway, same size of body about but the pins were much smaller. The most important part is if the blank fits and if its long enough cause you can always shorten it but not the other way around. Some times, If I cant find a blank to fit, Ill look for something close to it and file whatever needs filing till it fits.

Also, do you know how to disassemble this lock? There is a very cheap and easy tool to use which will prevent you from butchering that little ring piece. I learned the hard way so trying to see if I can save you the same pain.



I have never disassembled a padlock before so any help or pointers will be appreciated. I have watched youtube video and write-up on disassembling the 805F model and the similar miniature padlock.
Can you describe the tool that you are referring to.
Thanks
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Post Mon Sep 12, 2016 4:27 pm

Re: Help finding key blank

I found a couple 999CA blanks here at work, PM me if you're interested in them.
Like Gleb said, you would just cut them down after impressioning.
macgng: i just thought the cat was a real tiny bear
GWiens2001: Great video! Learned a lot about what fun can be had with a forklift and a chainsaw.
pmaxey83: but i first have to submit the proper forms for a new hobby to my wife
xeo: i root for the kernel
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Post Fri Sep 16, 2016 1:19 am

Re: Help finding key blank

macgng; it's completely unnecessary to have ~15$ in keys for a 50¢ lock ... but we all do it anyway :P

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