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OVIO PairLock - crowdfunding on Indiegogo now

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kk500

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Post Thu Aug 04, 2016 6:13 am

OVIO PairLock - crowdfunding on Indiegogo now

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ovio-pairlock-one-key-for-all--3/x/6041934#/
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Interesting concept... but it's just a 4-digit codelock... and a key is actually not needed...

What do others think?
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Post Thu Aug 04, 2016 8:03 am

Re: OVIO PairLock - crowdfunding on Indiegogo now

Didn't we have someone posting spam for this some time ago, which was followed by people laughing at things like the very small keyspace?

In any case, this looks a lot like Stanton Concepts RKS. Except retarded.
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Post Thu Aug 04, 2016 11:35 am

Re: OVIO PairLock - crowdfunding on Indiegogo now

It would be cool if both the key and combo were required to open the lock...and the combo couldn't be easily decoded like current combo locks.
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Post Thu Aug 04, 2016 12:44 pm

Re: OVIO PairLock - crowdfunding on Indiegogo now

Patrick Star wrote:Didn't we have someone posting spam for this some time ago, which was followed by people laughing at things like the very small keyspace?

In any case, this looks a lot like Stanton Concepts RKS. Except retarded.



Yes. They signed up and posted that they just "found" it.
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Post Thu Aug 04, 2016 3:53 pm

Re: OVIO PairLock - crowdfunding on Indiegogo now

Riyame wrote:
Patrick Star wrote:Didn't we have someone posting spam for this some time ago, which was followed by people laughing at things like the very small keyspace?

In any case, this looks a lot like Stanton Concepts RKS. Except retarded.



Yes. They signed up and posted that they just "found" it.


I remember that. When criticized they said those flaws like low keyspace and mechanical key failures "were not a problem". Classic doublespeak.

Honestly I'm impressed on how far people will go on such a shit idea. The broken English and "don't worry, not gonna happen" attitude is pretty brazen.

The 20k goal is a "flexible goal", which means they get every cent people pledge and they don't seem to have to deliver an actual product.
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Post Thu Aug 04, 2016 8:05 pm

Re: OVIO PairLock - crowdfunding on Indiegogo now

Patrick Star wrote:Didn't we have someone posting spam for this some time ago, which was followed by people laughing at things like the very small keyspace?

In any case, this looks a lot like Stanton Concepts RKS. Except retarded.


Now I recall the discussion...

Sorry for posting this then... I'm absolutely not promoting this silly thing :hammering:
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Post Sat Aug 06, 2016 2:45 pm

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Patrick Star wrote:...In any case, this looks a lot like Stanton Concepts RKS. Except retarded.


Oh man, that gave me a good laugh. Thanks Patrick.
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Post Sat Aug 06, 2016 3:56 pm

Re: OVIO PairLock - crowdfunding on Indiegogo now

Patrick Star wrote:Didn't we have someone posting spam for this some time ago, which was followed by people laughing at things like the very small keyspace?

In any case, this looks a lot like Stanton Concepts RKS. Except retarded.


If this thing was anything like the quality of the RKS, I'd go for crowdfunding it. That RKS is pretty cool. Wish I could get a few cam locks that were not cutaways. Though I do love my cutaway from Security Snobs.

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Post Sun Aug 07, 2016 10:13 am

Re: OVIO PairLock - crowdfunding on Indiegogo now

kk500 wrote:and a key is actually not needed...


After watching the video it looks like they are showing the internal removable core cylinder in the image you included. Under normal operation you wouldn't see/have access to the "disks?" since they would be inside the lock body so this wouldn't be decodable by turning the wheels.
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Post Sun Aug 07, 2016 2:25 pm

Re: OVIO PairLock - crowdfunding on Indiegogo now

Decided to go for it and get one of the padlocks, just because it is unique and therefore belongs in my collection. Will let you know about it when I get it. Estimated delivery in October.

Will say that the video of the key being used in the door lock deadbolt had the core looking pretty darn loose in the housing. Certainly would not rely on one for my house.

Am wondering if these keys could be used on those locks with similar keys. Use it like a make-up key. Have one or two of those other ones, so will find out. What do you think?

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Post Mon Aug 08, 2016 8:46 am

Re: OVIO PairLock - crowdfunding on Indiegogo now

Looks like the perfect victim for a simple 2-in-1 pick tool :D Basically have one code ring in the key that can be rotated and moved axially so that one can pick the lock. Kind of like ABUS, except...retarded to a pin tumbler level.
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Post Mon Aug 08, 2016 6:37 pm

Re: OVIO PairLock - crowdfunding on Indiegogo now

Jaakko Fagerlund wrote:Looks like the perfect victim for a simple 2-in-1 pick tool :D Basically have one code ring in the key that can be rotated and moved axially so that one can pick the lock. Kind of like ABUS, except...retarded to a pin tumbler level.


The key itself is a pick tool, or at least a trial key... anyone with a similar key can try to pick other's lock, no extra tool required!
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Post Mon Aug 08, 2016 9:50 pm

Re: OVIO PairLock - crowdfunding on Indiegogo now

kk500 wrote:
Jaakko Fagerlund wrote:Looks like the perfect victim for a simple 2-in-1 pick tool :D Basically have one code ring in the key that can be rotated and moved axially so that one can pick the lock. Kind of like ABUS, except...retarded to a pin tumbler level.


The key itself is a pick tool, or at least a trial key... anyone with a similar key can try to pick other's lock, no extra tool required!

Make-up key, yes, pick tool, no.
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Post Tue Aug 09, 2016 10:05 am

Re: OVIO PairLock - crowdfunding on Indiegogo now

Can't you impression it easily using the key though?
Smoke it, see which disc is binding, advance that one, repeat until open.
OK, probably not the easiest or quickest way to get this lock open but it does have a certain elegance, doesn't it?
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Post Tue Aug 09, 2016 10:46 am

Re: OVIO PairLock - crowdfunding on Indiegogo now

Patrick Star wrote:Can't you impression it easily using the key though?
Smoke it, see which disc is binding, advance that one, repeat until open.
OK, probably not the easiest or quickest way to get this lock open but it does have a certain elegance, doesn't it?


When I get one, will give that a try. But since there is plastic in the key, and zinc alloy as well, will use a Sharpie marker.

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