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adamantine locks (without the lamina lock)

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Post Tue May 21, 2013 6:57 am

adamantine locks (without the lamina lock)

Those Chinese rear disk picks (the ones with the blue handle) are described as "used to open adamantine locks (without the lamina lock)". Does anyone know what locks they are referring to?
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Post Tue May 21, 2013 12:29 pm

Re: adamantine locks (without the lamina lock)

I suspect the makers may have spent too much time in the Marvel universe or possibly playing Dwarf Fortress too much (as apart from the picks quoted everything was for RPG sites)

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It may be the brand name of the cheap Chinese disc detainer locks that have turned up in recent years (Silverline being a UK example)
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Post Tue May 21, 2013 12:33 pm

Re: adamantine locks (without the lamina lock)

I believe they are for disc detainer locks with the tension in the back not the front.
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Post Tue May 21, 2013 12:47 pm

Re: adamantine locks (without the lamina lock)

I think kilby is pretty close. There is a material called Adamantine:
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
This article is about the real mineral. For mythological and fictional substances of a similar name, see Adamant.
Adamantine is a mineral, often referred to as adamantine spar. It is a silky brown form of corundum. It has a Mohs rating of 9.[1]

Adamantine is also used as an adjective to refer to non-metallic, brilliant light reflecting and transmitting properties, known as adamantine luster. Diamond is the best known material to be described as having adamantine luster, although anglesite, cerussite and corundum in some of its forms are also described in this way.[2]

But a Mohs rating of 9 means it is far too hard to machine. And it is also a mythical metal used in fantasy games. Looks like the Chinese are on drugs.
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Post Tue May 21, 2013 2:07 pm

Re: adamantine locks (without the lamina lock)

Let's put a picture with what we're talking about: http://www.dhgate.com/disc-locks-pick-o ... 63a99.html

I have one of these picks and god knows the big flipper in the front doesnt fit in any of the disc detainer locks I have no matter if they are Abloy, or Baton or Chinese import disc detainers. I *believe* this is for back tensioning disc detainer locks and that paddle is what tensions the lock by inserting it all the way in, and the thinner bit that slides back and fourth rotates individual discs. I just cant imagine the discs and washers being as thick as the distance of that front paddle, anyone actually use this tool to open a lock?

This Deal Extreme advert for a safe cracking safe amplifier mentions picking up the sound of the laminas moving. I just visualize llamas walking around but I think laminas is their word for wheels or discs. There is plenty of awesome Engrish here: http://dx.com/p/electronic-magnetic-ste ... ocks-17644

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Post Tue May 21, 2013 2:17 pm

Re: adamantine locks (without the lamina lock)

another pick description says "without the reed lamina" http://dx.com/p/disc-locks-pick-17618

I now think this might mean without pin tumblers. we should translate pin tumblers in an English to Chinese dictionary and then go Chinese to English and see if it says pin tumblers or reed lamina =)

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Post Tue May 21, 2013 2:22 pm

Re: adamantine locks (without the lamina lock)

Haha! I put Adamantine into English to Chinese, then back to Chinese to English and it spit out: King Kong then googled King Kong lock and found this:
http://www.dhgate.com/locksmith-high-qu ... c0837.html
I am pretty sure now that the part in ( ) paenthesis is talking about locks that are not spring loaded pin tumblers, and I wonder if the Adamantine/King Kong is a BRAND of chinese disc detainer lock, not a TYPE of disc detainer mechanism.

Interesting stuff,
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Post Tue May 21, 2013 3:00 pm

Re: adamantine locks (without the lamina lock)

What a find Squelchie! :)
I always knew you could do magical things with google...

Anyway even if adamantine is a real mineral, I doubt if these cheap low-quality Chinese locks have anything to do with actual adamantine... I think it's just a good sounding name. :S
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Post Tue May 21, 2013 5:57 pm

Adamantine

The reason I posed the question is because so many have commented that the big "paddle" is too big for most locks, so I thought it might be made for a specific lock. But I am now fairly certain it is just a design flaw combined with bad translation. There may be an Adamantine lock somewhere, but it is doubtful they would make a special pick for it if it is rare. No, they clearly mean it for a rear tension detainer.
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Post Tue May 21, 2013 11:11 pm

Re: adamantine locks (without the lamina lock)

[quote="ARF-GEF"]What a find Squelchie! :)
I always knew you could do magical things with google...

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