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Re: Sargent and Greenleaf Environmental Padlock

PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2013 4:36 pm
by GWiens2001
Thank you, Riyame. :hbg:

Gordon

Re: Sargent and Greenleaf Environmental Padlock

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 3:29 am
by femurat
huxleypig wrote:I suppose this is the right place to ask about this - I was recently discussing the prospect of making a hobbs-like/Tibbe type pick for this lock and being able to lock the pick in place and to use it like a key.

I realise that the lock is very easy to pick and only has 20-odd possible keys for it but would a tool such as this be of interest to anyone?


Definitely! I'm not saying I'll buy it, but I'd like to see what you come up with.

Cheers :)

Re: Sargent and Greenleaf Environmental Padlock

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 6:53 am
by GWiens2001
Hux,

You could make it with springs and balls using indents to have a definite index at each of the three positions the discs can be set to, making it faster to reach the proper alignment. Or even a make-up key so you assemble it per the code on the lock, and then use the key normally.

You likely already thought of those ideas, but there they are.

Gordon

Re: Sargent and Greenleaf Environmental Padlock

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 8:42 am
by huxleypig
GWiens2001 wrote:Hux,

You could make it with springs and balls using indents to have a definite index at each of the three positions the discs can be set to, making it faster to reach the proper alignment. Or even a make-up key so you assemble it per the code on the lock, and then use the key normally.

You likely already thought of those ideas, but there they are.

Gordon


Like a 'clicker' but for rotational positions? Cool idea. Its 0, 45 or 90 degrees isn't it with these?

The pick I have in mind will have 3 rotatable heads. The rotation of them is (like the Abloy classic) off centre but as there's only 3 discs I think it is workable. To rotate independently requires 3 pick arms and because it is off centre the pick arms can't be inside each other (like the tibbe pick). So that means 2 arms actually have to go through (or round) the 1st disc and 1 arm through (or round) the 2nd disc meaning some tricky cutting and machining. But a cool challenge.

I would need a S&G Environmental lock first though, which might be a problem!