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GWiens2001

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Post Sat May 18, 2013 2:15 am

Sargent and Greenleaf Environmental Padlock

Sargent and Greenleaf Environmental Padlock. My first one, direct from macgng. :mrgreen:
This ain't a little lock!

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It had no key, but I intend to remedy that. :-). It is a 107. Tomorrow will likely be too busy at work, so it will probably be Sunday or Monday before I make the key.

Gordon

P.S. Does anybody know the cuts for a 108, 110, and 111 key? I know the rest of them from a post put up by Squelchtone.
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Post Sat May 18, 2013 2:31 am

Re: Sargent and Greenleaf Environmental Padlock

Congrats! And that one looks to be in great shape. I have only one. And I've not yet explored it much. You probably already
watched it... but I remember Bosnianbill had a pretty informative vid dealing with the keys (I think). Might be worth a look?

p.s. Mac is ALWAYS a pleasure to deal with :yep:
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Post Sat May 18, 2013 2:50 am

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Gordon, Mike isn't still happy!

Are you gonna make him happy? :mrgreen:
Beautifull lock. Thanks for posting that. Don't forget to show they keys when you make them :mrgreen:
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Post Sat May 18, 2013 3:31 am

Re: Sargent and Greenleaf Environmental Padlock

If I can figure out how to open it up, he'll get his gut shots. :mrgreen: Have not tried very hard, but I assume the round thing at the top of the padlock should be rotated to take this lock apart.

I have seen Bosnian Bill's video, and it is excellent. It has been a while, and I think it does show how to take it apart. That video was one of Squelchtone's posts. I took a screenshot from that video, where he shows his chart of key numbers and the cuts. It was from that chart that I knew what angles I needed to manipulate the discs to in order to open the lock. Just used a small screwdriver to set the deepest, the middle, then the shallowest discs. Minor adjustments, then the shallowest disc was able to drive the plug and open the lock.

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Post Sat May 18, 2013 7:07 am

Re: Sargent and Greenleaf Environmental Padlock

Gordon

Cool looking lock I need one too!

I never seen one but looks to me once unlocked as your is just rotate the top disk 180% or less to the notch opening on the right side seen in your last picture. I'll have to find this video you speak of now.

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Post Sat May 18, 2013 7:25 am

Re: Sargent and Greenleaf Environmental Padlock

Gwiens, if you look inside the open shackle hole towards that middle plug you should see a small hole with a roll pin in it. To get it apart you have to remove that pin.
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Post Sat May 18, 2013 11:30 am

Re: Sargent and Greenleaf Environmental Padlock

@MrWizard -

@Riyame - Thanks!  I'll see about giving it a shot tomorrow, cause we gotta feed Mike's porn fetish.  :mrgreen: 

To get one of these locks, I'd recommend macgng. His prices are great, and he ships fast.

Gordon

P.S. Bet you did not know it, but I have a lock-porn fetish, too. :D
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Post Sat May 18, 2013 2:38 pm

Re: Sargent and Greenleaf Environmental Padlock

You got a 107 it's a goodie man these are one of my favorite locks I have a couple. The 107 keys are hard to come by there are cast stainless steel ones and 2 different brass versions one will also open 101 locks.
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Post Sat May 18, 2013 10:41 pm

Re: Sargent and Greenleaf Environmental Padlock

Update - preliminary key made during slow time at work. I'll make a nicer key when I get some brass stock. For now, this will have to do. Used one of the metal guide rods that I kept from my son's crib. Why throw away good metal? The bow is just a washer.

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For those who don't know how large this lock is, here are pictures of the lock next to a ruler. First metric:

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The shackle is 14,22mm thick!

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And for those of us in the United States:

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Yes, over a half inch thick shackle. 8-)

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Is this that roll pin to be removed?

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There are no roll pins inside the shackle hole. If that is the roll pin that needs to be removed to disassemble the lock, there won't be no gut shots of this lock. That roll pin Is tiny!

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That's all, folks!

Gordon
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Post Sun May 19, 2013 12:14 am

Re: Sargent and Greenleaf Environmental Padlock

Gordon,
Check out my video of me gutting that lock!!! :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09O5wcNT_0g
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Post Sun May 19, 2013 1:14 am

Re: Sargent and Greenleaf Environmental Padlock

Nice! Thank you, Jim. :-)

Those two rods - are they like the return/scrambler bars in the ABLOY locks, or more like sidebars?

Gordon
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Post Sun May 19, 2013 1:36 am

Re: Sargent and Greenleaf Environmental Padlock

yes they are the return/scramblers. :)
Nice lock, not exactly high security with only three cuts, but looks badass!!!
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(20:18:08) MBI: Me working for the CIA is about as likely as you working in the Middle East.
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Post Mon May 20, 2013 5:21 pm

Re: Sargent and Greenleaf Environmental Padlock

I suppose this is the right place to ask about this - I was recently discussing the prospect of making a hobbs-like/Tibbe type pick for this lock and being able to lock the pick in place and to use it like a key.

I realise that the lock is very easy to pick and only has 20-odd possible keys for it but would a tool such as this be of interest to anyone?
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Post Mon May 20, 2013 6:45 pm

Re: Sargent and Greenleaf Environmental Padlock

sure I would be. :hbg:
(20:10:59) Blacky: oki
(20:18:08) MBI: Me working for the CIA is about as likely as you working in the Middle East.
(20:19:01) Riyame: lol
(20:19:05) Riyame: he is in dubai
(20:19:26) MBI rescinds his previous comment
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Post Mon May 20, 2013 8:52 pm

Re: Sargent and Greenleaf Environmental Padlock

Yes Gordon,that is the pin you need to remove. On the early models the pin was located on the outside like that. Later on they switched inside the shackle hole for more security.
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