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Post Sat Jul 02, 2011 1:15 am

Sargent Signature Series KIK

I am picking this Sargent Signature Series KIK and I get it into what feels like a false-set, except no pin creates counter-rotation. Is there something i can do to open this bad boy????
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Post Sat Jul 02, 2011 2:26 am

Re: Sargent Signature Series KIK

not sure, but thats a sweet lookin lock!!!
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Post Sat Jul 02, 2011 7:04 am

Re: Sargent Signature Series KIK

it looks like it has side pins of some sort... if they are passive make sure your pick or tensor are not in their way... if they are active...pick them lol
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Post Sat Jul 02, 2011 7:34 am

Re: Sargent Signature Series KIK

How deep of a false set? Most Sargents that I have picked didn't have securities, but I'm sure some out there do. If it is a deep false set have you tried manually rotating the lock back towards 12 o'clock (without letting the pins drop) then seeing if you can get counter-rotation?
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Post Sat Jul 02, 2011 7:57 am

Re: Sargent Signature Series KIK

It's probably locked into a false set on the side pins. Yes they are active, the sidebars themselves are pointing down towards the bottom of the lock (one sidebar on each side of the keyway, so two of them). Each of those sidebar pins can have one false gate. And they can lock up similar to the way an Assa 6000 sidebar locks up.

The regular pins are most likely just standard non-security pins.
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Post Sat Jul 02, 2011 7:59 am

Re: Sargent Signature Series KIK

Also, once you have picked it once. It will turn 20ish degrees and one of the sidebars will lock up again. This is because there are two sidebar grooves, so you will need to re-pick one of the sidebars pins a second time, and yet a third time to get it back to neutral.
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Post Sat Jul 02, 2011 8:05 am

Re: Sargent Signature Series KIK

thats a cool lock, when ur done with it send it my way lol ;)
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Post Sat Jul 02, 2011 9:19 am

Re: Sargent Signature Series KIK

Farmerfreak wrote:Also, once you have picked it once. It will turn 20ish degrees and one of the sidebars will lock up again. This is because there are two sidebar grooves, so you will need to re-pick one of the sidebars pins a second time, and yet a third time to get it back to neutral.

WOW! Its locks back up like you said. Im going to get this one. Thanks FF.
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Post Sat Jul 02, 2011 9:20 am

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LocksmithArmy wrote:thats a cool lock, when ur done with it send it my way lol ;)

This one is mine, but i have 5 more in the mail :D
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Post Sat Jul 02, 2011 11:34 am

Re: Sargent Signature Series KIK

well... let me know if u wanna get rid of one w a key... they look like alot of fun to pick...

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Post Sat Jul 02, 2011 11:39 am

Re: Sargent Signature Series KIK

LocksmithArmy wrote:well... let me know if u wanna get rid of one w a key... they look like alot of fun to pick...

make us a vid

Will do!!
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Post Sat Jul 02, 2011 11:58 am

Re: Sargent Signature Series KIK

yeah thats a sweet lock! put me in line for one too
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Post Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:33 pm

Re: Sargent Signature Series KIK

nhoj_yelbom wrote:yeah thats a sweet lock! put me in line for one too

Well, you and LSA are the lucky ones. I am going to keep a few to practice with so you guys might be the only ones a give a lock too. I paid $10 each for them, so w/ shipping it will be around $15. Let me know if you still want em.
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Post Sat Jul 02, 2011 9:32 pm

Re: Sargent Signature Series KIK

Nice lock! Looks like it'd be a great pick. Wish ya had more of them. Keep us up to date on your progress....and, as always, Oldfast looooves gut shots (hint, hint) lol.
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