Oldfast wrote:Hmmm. Always a difficult topic to convey... both for you and for us.
As best you can, tryn' expand upon what you've seen and felt so far.
The more details the better.
cycletrak1 wrote:*I believe I have found the number for the 3rd wheel (76)*... That's as far as I've got so far. Having trouble with the Graph #2 AR. Not hearing clicks so I may be doing something not quite right.
- Maybe you have indeed found wheel 3's gate.
- Maybe you've found w1's gate but are calling it w3.
Or, a more likely scenario - you have not found a gate for a wheel,
but have instead located your contact area (ie. the drive cam's gate).
Again, if you can, tryn' elaborate as to what led you to conclude this (76)?
What wheel action did you take? ie. Which wheel(s) & in what direction(s)?
What
exactly are you feeling and/or hearing in the area of 76? etc.
Any and all details will help provoke better advice.
cycletrak1 wrote:*I spin right 4 times to zero then turn left to 76 (my number)* . Then turn right to hear clicks. Should the clicks start sometime after passing the zero or could there be clicks between 76 and zero? I tried a different number on the graph, replacing zero with 5 as an example, still no click. I must be doing something wrong.
So
*here*... what you've done is parked all 3 wheels at 0, then brought
ONLY the drive cam to 76.
When you did this, are you feeling/hearing anything at 76? If so, this is the drive cam's gate.
Try moving the dial lightly back-and-forth around the 76 area. What do you feel/hear?
Oldfast, thank you for explaining.
I was following Dagger's "Safecracking for Everyone" for manipulation
I found the contact area by turning the wheel 4x to the left and stopped at 0.
I then slowly turned the wheel right to listen for noise. I call them clicks. (I was using a stethoscope to listen, I'm working on trying to obtain a mic/amp etc.) They are very faint. Found one at 55 and 72.
I repeated that step 3x to make sure. (2x with eyes closed to concentrate on listening) and I heard them in the same place each time. I was assuming this was a contact area. I didn't hear or feel any other faint "clicks" other than those 2. The clicks also did not move when I rocked them back and forth, they stayed right on those numbers.
I then turned the wheel 4x to the left and stopped at #10 (I know you are supposed to do every 2.5 but I did 10 instead)
I then slowly turned the wheel right to listen for the noise. I then graphed the number of both of the points that I heard the noise.
I reset the wheel each time (turning 4x left) and continued on with different numbers, marking down the numbers where I heard the faint noise. I then found where the 55 graph went down and the 72 graph went up to "meet" each other. They both met at 75 and 77.5, they were not offset. The middle of those two numbers is 76. That's how I came up with the possible number of 76 for the combo.
I did the low test and hi test using 76 to try to see which wheel it was. It showed as wheel 3.
Now I was looking for the "right" hand number. So turned wheel right 4x to zero, then left to 76 and then turned right to listen for noise. I don't hear those same faint "clicks" for the contact area. I do hear loud ratcheting type sound with click, click, click, of what I assume is it is picking up a wheel as it also is harder to turn the wheel. Then there is silence, as I continue turning right I hear another loud ratcheting type sound with click, click, click which may be another wheel?
When turning right I hear other faint clicks but when it's rocked back and forth, the click moves to the next number each time for 3 or 4 numbers then it's quiet. The clicks I heard looking for the "left" contact area, where I initial found the 55 and 72, those clicks did not move when I rocked them back and forth. They stayed put. So when I was turning right, as an example if I heard the faint click at 25 (a made up number for trying to explain this) as I was turning right, I would rock it back and forth and the noise I heard would move to 24, rock it again and it moves to 23, rock it again it would move to 22, then it would be quiet again.
When turning right on the wheel, between 60-70 it does not turn smoothly. Feels like its catching or dragging?
I hope I did a better job of explaining.
Thank you for for your patients and trying to help!
Cycletrak1
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:06 pm