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caveman

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Post Sun Jan 01, 2017 1:44 am

SARGENT PADLOCK HELP

i have a question i have 2 SARGENT PADLOCKS i have picked them open do you now were i can find out how to gut them and re key them and how to identify what key way i have please let me now thank you happy new year all
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Post Sun Jan 01, 2017 5:43 am

Re: SARGENT PADLOCK HELP

There should be a screw (usually Phillips head) at the bottom of the shackle hole.

Undo that and the cylinder should drop out.

Be careful when removing the cylinder as there could be other pieces like spring return mechanisms behind it. You will be able to work it out from there

As to the key way, I'm sure that someone here will be able to tell you.
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Post Sun Jan 01, 2017 10:38 am

Re: SARGENT PADLOCK HELP

If you don't see a screw down the shackle hole, they may be Sargent interchangeable core locks, and you'll have to pick them to control.

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Post Sun Jan 01, 2017 2:12 pm

Re: SARGENT PADLOCK HELP

Those look like a restricted keyway - definitely not the usual L or R series. Like the others have said, there will be a screw underneath the shackle and the cylinder will drop out. They are not LFIC.
femurat: They're called restricted for a reason...
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Post Sun Jan 01, 2017 5:32 pm

Re: SARGENT PADLOCK HELP

What tells you it's not LFIC? The form factor sees about right- is it the lack of logo on the housing of the lock? All of the LFIC locks I've seen had "sargent" on the lock housing. Are there non-sargent cores that fit into Sargent housings?

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Post Sun Jan 01, 2017 6:00 pm

Re: SARGENT PADLOCK HELP

When it comes to finding the keyway in our shop we just go thru the Sargent keyblanks we have until we find the one that fits. It could most likely be an LA Sargent Keyway. Then if you know how to impression, that's how I would make a key, then use the code machine to make a factory cut key! Hope this helps. Doesn't always work this way in our shop, but what I say is pretty much an ideal way to do it!
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Post Sun Jan 01, 2017 8:12 pm

Re: SARGENT PADLOCK HELP

tpark - I have the same lock here, it's not LFIC. The 2 lobes are slightly smaller and always say SARGENT on the front. What you see on that padlock is just a bible cover.
femurat: They're called restricted for a reason...
Innerpicked: The more keys you carry, the more important you look
GWiens2001: Great video! Learned a lot about what fun can be had with a forklift and a chainsaw.
pmaxey83: but i first have to submit the proper forms for a new hobby to my wife
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Post Sun Jan 01, 2017 9:33 pm

Re: SARGENT PADLOCK HELP

Jeff - thanks for the info! I don't have any Sargent padlocks, so it's great to get info about them.
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caveman

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Post Sun Jan 01, 2017 11:30 pm

Re: SARGENT PADLOCK HELP

i have removed the core and found out it is a 6 pin core
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Post Mon Jan 02, 2017 12:02 am

Re: SARGENT PADLOCK HELP

I have one. somewhere lol
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Post Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:27 am

Re: SARGENT PADLOCK HELP

Jim, that's Schlage, not Sargent :P
femurat: They're called restricted for a reason...
Innerpicked: The more keys you carry, the more important you look
GWiens2001: Great video! Learned a lot about what fun can be had with a forklift and a chainsaw.
pmaxey83: but i first have to submit the proper forms for a new hobby to my wife
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Post Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:44 am

Re: SARGENT PADLOCK HELP

One question: Why are the pins colored?

Thanks
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Post Mon Jan 02, 2017 11:42 am

Re: SARGENT PADLOCK HELP

MartinHewitt wrote:One question: Why are the pins colored?

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Most aftermarket (and a few OEM) pin kits use colored pins to visually distinguish sizes.
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Post Mon Jan 02, 2017 1:23 pm

Re: SARGENT PADLOCK HELP

jeffmoss26 wrote:Jim, that's Schlage, not Sargent :P

oops lol
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Post Thu Feb 16, 2017 1:59 am

Re: SARGENT PADLOCK HELP

thank you Jeff for the great help you gave me on my Sargent padlocks i got both locks in a lot on e bay with no keys and no info on what key profile it was and with Jeff help both locks work great and i know now they were master keyed and the key way is a 6 pin LF key way thanks Jeff :kik:
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