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fgarci03

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Post Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:16 pm

CISA Security Profile (SP) Lock

Today I got in the mail a new lock to play with.

The CISA SP - Security Profile (is there another name for it?)
Basically it's a pin tumbler with a nasty keyway. Reminds me of an ASSA Twin I saw some time ago:
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In addition to the keyway, this lock has 4 ball bearings (2 on each side) as a passive system to restrict keys.
Here's the plug:
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On one of the sides (the second image) it only takes 2 ball bearings that are let inside the plug by 2 dimples on the side of the key. On the other side (the first image), the chambers are deeper, so it also has 2 pins before the ball bearings:
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Here's the pin configuration for this one:
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3 spools, 1 serrated(?) and a regular driver pin. The first key and driver pins are hardned for anti-drill protection. It also has 2 other anti-drill pins on the cylinder:
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And here's the key, pins and plug:
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As for the housing, it's not rounded from the inside. Any guess why that happens? The image isn't very good, but you can see the squarish shape of it:
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Now off to picking it!
Go ahead, keep plugging away, picking on me! You will end up on bypass or with rigor mortise.
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Post Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:36 pm

Re: CISA Security Profile (SP) Lock

:drool: :drool:

Can we please see the other side of the key, too?

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Post Mon Jul 01, 2013 1:04 pm

Re: CISA Security Profile (SP) Lock

Here:
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The dimples are at the same spot on each side!
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Post Mon Jul 01, 2013 1:58 pm

Re: CISA Security Profile (SP) Lock

Heh, warding overhangs for protection from the evil entry machine.
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Post Mon Jul 01, 2013 6:45 pm

Re: CISA Security Profile (SP) Lock

HOLY SHIT... step aside folks... it's GUTSHOT TIIIIIIIMMMMmmme! :soldier:

fgarci03 wrote:...As for the housing, it's not rounded from the inside. Any guess why that happens?
Just a guess... but will that (in some way) make it difficult to achieve a full rotation after it's been picked? *shrugs*
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Post Mon Jul 01, 2013 7:24 pm

Re: CISA Security Profile (SP) Lock

Oldfast wrote:HOLY SHIT... step aside folks... it's GUTSHOT TIIIIIIIMMMMmmme! :soldier:

fgarci03 wrote:...As for the housing, it's not rounded from the inside. Any guess why that happens?
Just a guess... but will that (in some way) make it difficult to achieve a full rotation after it's been picked? *shrugs*


I'll let you know when I manage to pick it :mrgreen:
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Post Thu Jul 04, 2013 11:20 am

Re: CISA Security Profile (SP) Lock

It is the same mechanism as in the Abus TS/TSB/TSK 5000. You can find a few videos of those being picked on youtube. Depending on the biting they can be really challenging! Good luck!
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Post Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:44 pm

Re: CISA Security Profile (SP) Lock

from what I see there, two of the pins are so long that they probably do not need lifting, and the keyway can probably best be accessed for the other pins by simply filling the bottom of it with a big tension blade and useing a dimple pick across the top of that. Possibly a half diamond dimple pick such as femurat makes. this could lift the pins from the space between them
None of the pins appears to need much more than a few milimeters of lift, just like a dimple lock.
I read all this into the front view photo of the cylinder and the view of the key and pins. you show.
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Post Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:30 pm

Re: CISA Security Profile (SP) Lock

Evil keyway....

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