find these harder than any other lock i have tried by a long way.
needed a lot of patience to get the binding order, the super-fine tolerances make it real hard to detect.
i think that is the main issue i have with these older lkwds.
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AULockpicker wrote:You might find that it's not only fine tolerances that makes picking Lockwoods difficult. Have you seen the bevel on some of their pins? The bevel on the pins in some Lockwoods are in my mind extreme bordering on the ridiculous ~ from a pickers point of view. I did a short vid a while ago showing that bevel.
oldlock wrote:The best way I have found with these is moderate tension, run through the pins once, then tickle each pin again. That usually deals with the bevel on the pins and then they are straightfoward.
oldlock wrote:That is a fairly old padlock you have there, factor in wear and tear + dirt (maybe) and it all equals problems.
No standard lockwood 5 or 6 pin products had (untill recently !) any anti-pick pins at all.
psykro wrote:AULockpicker wrote:You might find that it's not only fine tolerances that makes picking Lockwoods difficult. Have you seen the bevel on some of their pins? The bevel on the pins in some Lockwoods are in my mind extreme bordering on the ridiculous ~ from a pickers point of view. I did a short vid a while ago showing that bevel.
hi AULp, a fellow convict !
i haven't dismantled one of these, i like em too much. i have a repinnable assa lockwood though and i didn't notice any extreme bevelling on its pins.
do you have a link to your vid, i'd like to have a look at that mate.
i find the 4pinners lots easier, tho' they seem to have 1 or 2 spools in them. so far with these old 5 and 6 pinners i haven;t got one false set- just lots of oversets and stalemates due to wrong binding order... and perhaps. as you suggest, bevels!
thanks for the input, there isn't a whole lot i can find on these old lockwoods out there.
AULockpicker wrote:I checked my videos and it was a rim cylinder which had the large bevelled pins. I did perform surgery on a lockwood padlock some time ago to see how they are shielded, and that particular one had standard pins with standard bevels. I don't know if some lockwood padlocks have the same pins or if in fact the pins in the rim cylinder I put on YT had been doctored by a locksmith?
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