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Post Tue Dec 15, 2015 4:05 pm

Joystick (T) pin

My old beaut of a dremel — a 25-year old German piece of trusty simplicity — died on me recently (one of the 3-prong pieces are snapped, and the motor is loose inside). I haven’t had the heart to throw it out yet. :S

After a month or so I finally popped down to the local Bunnings — the good ol’ monopolised hardware store — and fetched myself the cheapest entry-level official Dremel (200 series?). Add a table-mounted vise and go-go improvised lathe!

And so, back to making homebrew security pins! This last week’s new plaything have been toying with T-pins, mixing and matching them alongside spools… but also besides each other, alternating them upside-down (using a master wafer to keep it from collapsing into the spring).

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(The joystick pin?)


I used a spool and achieved this ^ the other night, and, while it probably has a lot more to do with the binding order, and it’s positioning in the lock (high-cut, #6) it’s a bloody cracker to pick. Uughhh. FFS. Negotiating when that bottom part of the (upside-down) T fully clears alongside everything else (viz., not unsetting any progress) is a damn PITA.

Moreover, I took some photos and after inspecting them figured others might like the pics. (:

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What the ‘joystick’ pin was made from — a brass (Sargent I think?) spool.


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A bunch more, from another challenge lock. #1 is an ASSA Lockwood steel spool (courtesy of mercurial), #2 & #3 upside-down T-pins w/ wafers; #4 small serrated (Sargent?), drilled PiP; #5 standard, drilled PiP w/ a separate top-bar wafer; #6 a large serrated pin, drilled PiP again.


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The tips were intentionally rounded, and everything polished, so that it flops around in the lock. I found these pins sit a bit lop-sided (less in tighter-tolerance locks) w/ the spring pressure compressing them against their top wafers, and they can flop weirdly inside their chamber depending on the amount of pressure placed on their corresponding keypins. Altogether, I find round tops work better than sharp 90-degree flat edges.


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How it sits, almost ‘assembled’, in the locked-state (master wafers missing on the rounded T-pin tips).
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Post Tue Dec 15, 2015 4:34 pm

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Very nasty looking pins.
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Post Tue Dec 15, 2015 4:47 pm

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I approve the production of these pins :hammering:
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Post Tue Dec 15, 2015 6:54 pm

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Very nice indeed. Damn that Flywheel, after his PIP everyone is making them lol
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Post Tue Dec 15, 2015 7:15 pm

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Wow! Very cool :cool:
Damn, you're all so talented with your custom pins and your cutaways and stuff.. Shows me what a Noob I am :D
Nice work :)
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Very well done smoothing looking work.
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Post Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:05 am

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That is a whole lot of evil you've got there.
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Post Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:56 am

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They are NOT easy but they can be done. :mrgreen:

The PiP driver pins are not a problem but the others are "Right little buggers" !!!!! especially if you don't know they are there.

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Post Wed Dec 16, 2015 8:01 am

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Cheers guys. (:

The PiP driver pins are not a problem but the others are "Right little buggers" !!!!! especially if you don't know they are there.


Yea, finding this to be the case; PiPs by themselves aren’t too troublesome… however, PiPs mixed amongst other security pins (and giving the PiP outer pins some dremel-love) is what makes the combo difficult.

Once I’ve owned this sucker a few good times I might pass it onto someone willing.
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Quick update: been playing with one iteration of this T-pin + PiP combo for two hours now, w/o success. I keep getting the most wild false sets. I feel like that I understand how PiP pins work, and I know definitely I’ve gotten false sets so deep it *has* to be pretty much just the inner pins left… but those fuuuuucking T-pins ruin the entire thing.

If this keeps up I’m gonna want to offload this pain onto someone else… anyone willing?
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Post Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:06 pm

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aeporia wrote:Quick update: been playing with one iteration of this T-pin + PiP combo for two hours now, w/o success. I keep getting the most wild false sets. I feel like that I understand how PiP pins work, and I know definitely I’ve gotten false sets so deep it *has* to be pretty much just the inner pins left… but those fuuuuucking T-pins ruin the entire thing.

If this keeps up I’m gonna want to offload this pain onto someone else… anyone willing?



uhm. yes. Dibs! :hammering:
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Post Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:18 pm

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Korver15 wrote:uhm. yes. Dibs! :hammering:


PM me for a trade or the like? I’d probably do this just after the new year, with all these festive season shenanigans currently.

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