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Electronic Lock - Torn Down and "Manipulated"

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escapenrv

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Post Sat Mar 21, 2015 8:23 pm

Re: Electronic Lock - Torn Down and "Manipulated"

Nice work. makes me want to get out my old logic probe and see what I can get into. I have not done a lot of that since my KIM-1 days. (Yes, I am old.)
Puzzles are always neat to my way of thinking. Keep up the good work......

Steve
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rohare

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Post Sun Mar 22, 2015 7:18 pm

Re: Electronic Lock - Torn Down and "Manipulated"

escapenrv wrote:Nice work. makes me want to get out my old logic probe and see what I can get into. I have not done a lot of that since my KIM-1 days. (Yes, I am old.)
Puzzles are always neat to my way of thinking. Keep up the good work......

Steve


Sweet. I had to look it up, but the KIM-1 was a nice piece of work. And the day after I read up on it, Chuck Peddle, one of the lead designers of the KIM-1 did a really interesting interview. Check out http://www.theamphour.com/241-an-interv ... oryphaeus/ for some nostalgia.
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mbpick34

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Post Wed Aug 03, 2016 6:13 pm

Re: Electronic Lock - Torn Down and "Manipulated"

Most of these cheap electronic "safes" ship with BJ8P153 micro controller.
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georgeconnell

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Post Mon Jun 05, 2017 10:34 am

Re: Electronic Lock - Torn Down and "Manipulated"

Electronic safe lock is considered as one of the best security that you can use for keeping your valuables. When you compare this electrical safe with traditional dial safe, you will find that it is much more difficult to crack. However, this safe has a weak spot which allows a nimble hand to open it with little fancy work. I got to heard quiet good reviews about this reference for electronic safe locks options. It is better to go with new technology electronic locks safes with respect to the security purpose.
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Jaakko Fagerlund

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Post Tue Jun 06, 2017 3:56 am

Re: Electronic Lock - Torn Down and "Manipulated"

georgeconnell wrote:Electronic safe lock is considered as one of the best security that you can use for keeping your valuables. When you compare this electrical safe with traditional dial safe, you will find that it is much more difficult to crack. However, this safe has a weak spot which allows a nimble hand to open it with little fancy work. I got to heard quiet good reviews about this reference for electronic safe locks options. It is better to go with new technology electronic locks safes with respect to the security purpose.

Sounds like an unwanted advertisement, as half of the sentences are not true or you have no idea of safes and the other half is nonsense.
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madsamurai

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Post Wed Jun 07, 2017 12:47 am

Re: Electronic Lock - Torn Down and "Manipulated"

Agree with Jaakko... I can think of quite a few very good reasons to go with a mechanical dial over an electronic lock unless you're in a situation where multiple people need access and combinations need to be changed frequently, like a business. I would agree that some high-end electronic locks may be more secure than many mechanical dial locks, but the electronic locks currently sold in the majority of consumer-level safes right now are not those locks. There's almost no security advantage and a whole lot more potential for failure of at least one part within the first few years... If the chinese solenoid actuator fails, you're SOL and looking for a guy with a drill... the bubble-buttons on the face crack within a few years, sooner if it's in your garage or basement... the wire can get cut or broken, especially on elocks with removable faces, and that's potentially also a drill-remedied problem. I also learned today there are override codes that sales reps have access to (we had a big-brand rep in today to open one of our safes where a customer had changed the combo on us) that will open a particular brand or model... that kinda surprised me, I expected a hardware tool would be needed.

Anyway, a good group 2M or even group 1 mechanical lock is probably going to cost roughly the same, will keep out all but the very best manipulators (and likely take them hours), and should easily last 30 years plus without issue. Unless you're in a business situation and need to manage or log employee access, or you have some physical problem that keeps you from being able to turn a dial, I have yet to hear a legitimate good reason to go digital over mechanical.
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