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Re: Mosler 302

PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:47 am
by Oldfast
johnnybravo3210 wrote:I have been given a 4 drawer Black Label Mosler Safe with a 302 lock. The combo was supposedly set to 25-50-25. Which does not work. And neither does 50-25-50 which is the default. I have tried every combination that may have been set a number off of the two combos above with no luck. I have an X07 I was wanting to replace the 302 lock with. I read here they can be manually manipulated by a good safecraker of which I am not. I really don't want it drilled out. Would anyone want to take the challenge of trying to opem it manually? I live in Niceville Florida. If you open it you can have the old 302 lock.

Welcome to the forum Johnny. I hope you find someone that can help. I'm not only too far away... I'd be of no help as I'm not familiar with the process of manipulating these. Though I too have been told and read that there is indeed a valid way/technique.

MartinHewitt wrote:.....Oldfast, I can't read the numbers on your lock in these photos. Could you please have a look what is written there?

Oldfast wrote:So the tag says.....

PROTECTED BY ONE OR MORE OF
THE FOLLOWING US PATENTS

3, 699, 789
3, 702, 551
3, 719, 064
3, 727, 439

3, 772, 904
4, 073, 554
4, 230, 912
4, 510, 417

It's right in front of me and I'm STILL having trouble determining a few of the numbers. Hope it's all correct.



p.s. I see fuckitbucket is up to its old dirty tricks again :D This time I think their new scheme is here to stay tho. lol

Re: Mosler 302

PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:39 am
by MartinHewitt
Damn! Missed that posting. Thanks!

Re: Mosler 302

PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:02 am
by MartinHewitt
Hm. None of the patent have to do with this lock. The last two are not even related to safe and lock stuff.

US3699789 Dial mechanism
US3702551 Time delay lock
US3719064 A strange combination lock
US3727439 Deposit key lock
US3772904 Deposit key lock
US4073554 Modular safety deposit box system
US4230912 Line voltage sensor and dial pulse repeater
US4510417 Display panel

Re: Mosler 302

PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2020 8:35 pm
by MartinHewitt
Droshi's method to manipulate a MK-302 does indeed work. I think with the right strategy it should be open in well below 3 hours.

Re: Mosler 302

PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 1:57 pm
by jharveee
That's impressive, congratulations. I haven't yet been able to. Its on the list. Do you have any tips to share?

Re: Mosler 302

PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:27 pm
by MartinHewitt
Don't try to find the true gate by manipulation. Just do a brute force of all possible gate combinations after you determined the false gate centers. With my dialing speed it takes from then worst case 80 minutes with an opening guarantee.

Re: Mosler 302

PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 9:15 pm
by L4R3L2
I didn't think there were false gates on these. I haven't manipulated one yet, but by droshi's derscription it sounds like there is no CP feel until wheel 3's gate is found first, then the other wheels are found in conventional manner using wheel 3s gate as the gateway in to the wheel pack for CP reading. Is this incorrect?

Re: Mosler 302

PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 9:33 pm
by MartinHewitt
I can get a CP in my MR-302 in all situations, but when W3 is wrong the CP is about one number higher. In The National Locksmith Guide to Manipulation is a chapter about the CD-302. The wheels are 16-sided. There might be an additional of 16 tiny false gates, but I don't see them in any graph.

Re: Mosler 302

PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:27 pm
by MartinHewitt
Got a Mosler Class 6 field safe. 100lbs. I think the previous (deceased?) owner painted it in black and gold and stored dope inside.

Re: Mosler 302

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 8:40 pm
by edocdab
Did he shout "Say hello to my little friend" in his last minutes?
You guys have some great safes, locks and other stuff collected!