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Stack On gun safe manipulation

PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 3:26 pm
by Alexander Mundy
Picked up a Stack On gun safe off FB Marketplace for $50 without combo.
Said they got it years ago and it sat in the garage unused with the dial taped.
Their little Daughter took the tape off and turned the dial and they didn't know where they put the combo.
It is direct entry so I installed a digital level on the handle.
Felt 2 wheels besides the cam.
Checked the offsets L&R which were 2-1/4 cam to W2 and 4-1/2 cam to W1
Ran the cam around L to find the false and true gates which were 3 numbers wide.
6-19-31-44-55-69-79-94
Using the best reading cam gate (L19) I ran W2L (Ignore the "W3L" & "W2R"on the sticky, bad habit) finding the false and true gates for W2.
7-22-32-45-57-66-82-96
Picked the best reading gate on W2 (82) and ran W1R finding the false and true gates for W1.
5-16-26-42-56-67-81-92
Picked the best reading gate on W1 (5) and ran the gates on W2.
W2 best gate with W1 5 was 57.
Ran W1 gates with W2 57.
6th gate on W1 L16-R57-L19 and Yahtzee.

After finding 8 fairly evenly spaced gates on the cam and given the first 2 gates I found on W2 & W1 were about the same spacing,
I skipped 10 numbers ahead each time I looked for the next gate which saved a considerable amount of time although I did have to back up once.

45 minute manipulation, no graphing but making notes where needed so not sure if I can call it true freespinning or not.

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Re: Stack On gun safe manipulation

PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 5:14 pm
by 10ringo10
Congrats on the open
Thats a damn good idea the digital level that's one more tool on the shopping list.
Will have to try this method ...so your just watching the digital reading rather than a mark on paper
Stuck to safe Or as some like to use now the laser pen method... For contacts on wheels

Re: Stack On gun safe manipulation

PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 5:33 pm
by Alexander Mundy
Yes, a digital level works great.
I first used it on a smaller safe and wouldn't use anything else unless I had to.
The electrical cold water bond works well to put on a handle, and they come in varying sizes.
(Conveniently I'm an electrician)
The plate the level is on is just a piece of sheet metal I had laying around that I drilled a hole in to attach to the cold water bond for the magnet on the level to stick to.
This particular level also has a built-in laser (see the red circle on the side of it) so one could watch the dot on a target.

Re: Stack On gun safe manipulation

PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 5:15 pm
by femurat
Great idea! And congrats on the opening.

Do you just try to always push the handle the same way? You don't need a spring or rubber band for consistency?

Cheers :)

Re: Stack On gun safe manipulation

PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 6:13 pm
by Alexander Mundy
On a small safe that I manipulated I used rubber bands for constant tension. I started with a bungee cord on this safe and stopped using it after I found the cam gates. I just put about the same heavy tension on the handle each time. It wasn't as fussy as the smaller safe.

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Re: Stack On gun safe manipulation

PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:25 pm
by MartinHewitt
Did you check if there is a shift in CPs also?

Re: Stack On gun safe manipulation

PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 10:10 pm
by Alexander Mundy
The cam is solid to the shaft.
2-1/4 W2
4-1/2 W1

Re: Stack On gun safe manipulation

PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2022 6:40 am
by femurat
It makes sense, thank you :)