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Diebold 673000 group 2

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Post Fri Oct 08, 2021 11:09 am

Diebold 673000 group 2

I am very new to this hobby as a friend of mine asks me to cut open his lockbox as he forgot the combination. Told him I would rather try manipulating the lock instead. It is a Diebold 673000 group 2, with the bolt to the top. He thought the combination was stepped like 10-20-40, but have tried versions of this to no avail. Have been trying to graft the wheels for about a month now. Each graft is different and looks the Grand Canyon. The contact points as far as I can tell are 96 to 7. Is that to large of a span?

Thank you in advance for any suggestions.
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Post Sun Oct 10, 2021 2:54 pm

Re: Diebold 673000 group 2

Not particularly but it could be closer with more practise.

Try dialing your first known numbers and try to graph the 3rd, if you think its 10 and 20 dial those in and try graphing it. I would guess the 3rd number would be 30 rather than 40. Make sure you are resetting the lock properly before dialing in a combo.

To go from no experience to opening this may be a long shot but if you're graphing you must have already done a good bit of research.
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Post Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:21 pm

Re: Diebold 673000 group 2

Thank you for the reply. I have done some research. Watched Lock Manipulator's vedios and bought his book. Still not sure how to park wheels 1 & 3 to read wheel 2 though. I'll keep trying.
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Post Wed Oct 13, 2021 5:01 am

Re: Diebold 673000 group 2

You can't literally park wheel 3 since it is the 1st wheel picked up by the cam. You have to park 1 and dial 2 & 3 over and over.
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Post Thu Oct 14, 2021 8:02 pm

Re: Diebold 673000 group 2

Parking means to position a wheel at a certain number which is not known to be a gate. If W2 is graphed with W1 and W3 parked, then W1 needs to be positioned only once, while W3 must be positioned for every point on the graph.
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Post Wed Oct 20, 2021 2:07 pm

Re: Diebold 673000 group 2

Ok, So I ran my (many of first grafts) first graft and did the Hi Lo test and it can out to be wheel #1 at 10.5. Set up to look for wheel #3 by dialing #1 > 10.5 , parked #2 > 0 and graft #3. It came out as a flat line, no highs or lows. So now set every thing up the same but with #2 > 25. Graf of #3 looks like a moon scape. Have not been able to find a center node on any of the RCP"s. Will graft again with #2 at 50 and 75 to see if I can find a low spot on #2.

Am I on the right track here? I would hate to cut open the back of this box.

BTW the decal on the front of box says DIEBOLD MOSLER SECURITY. I was able to put a bore scope through a mounting hole in the back of the box to get the model # and group 2

This is my frist time ever trying to open a combination lock with out the combination, so am happy for all the help I can get. Thank you all.
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Post Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:33 pm

Re: Diebold 673000 group 2

I've found that usually (but not always) when W1 indicates first W2 is next to indicate. That most likely is because the fence would be slightly sloped and touches W1 first then W2 then W3. I've found that the odds favor W3 indicating first and if not then W1 indicates first. I have 1 stubborn lock that W2 indicates first.
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Post Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:44 am

Re: Diebold 673000 group 2

Can you see inside the change key hole?
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Post Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:57 am

Re: Diebold 673000 group 2

If you can see the the back of the lock you should be able to see in the change key hole and open it by lining those up on the wheels to get a change combo.
Edit, sorry just noticed Martin was getting at the same suggestion.

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