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La gard 3390 - downgrade to group 2?

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Post Thu Jun 04, 2020 6:28 pm

La gard 3390 - downgrade to group 2?

Hi,
I'm contemplating trying out the lock manipulation, but I can't find any reasonable group 2 lock around here (just taxes and mail cost more than the lock itself).
But I can buy 3390, which is unfortunately group 2m; I wander if it would be possible to "downgrade" it to group 2 (removing the tomahawk?) for the purpose of learning the manipulation...
Thank you for your help...
Kind regards,
Michal

Ps. I know about Sparrows vault, but it would cost more than a brand new lock with the dial and I also keep hearing about quality problems that cause problems manipulating it...
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Post Thu Jun 04, 2020 6:39 pm

Re: La gard 3390 - downgrade to group 2?

It is not that easy to change the 3390. You need to replace this tomahawk with a spring, that directly pushes the lever down. That can be ugly. The drive cam is also different from the standard Group 2 locks and the result may vary.

Did you look on ebay for used locks?
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Post Thu Jun 04, 2020 9:13 pm

Re: La gard 3390 - downgrade to group 2?

Hi,
thank you for the quick answer...
To be honest, I've never tried ebay (for some reason I have it associated with scammers), but looking there now I see only offers from US and none of them ships here (plus the customs would make it really fun)...
I tried looking for La Gard 3330, S&G 6730 - is there any other reasonable lock to start on?
Thank you for your help,
Michal
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Post Thu Jun 04, 2020 9:59 pm

Re: La gard 3390 - downgrade to group 2?

Where do you live?
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Post Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:36 pm

Re: La gard 3390 - downgrade to group 2?

Reasonable locks ...

Big Red CDL-3, CDL-4; Bode-Panzer 106; Chubb 7L08; Diebold 177-23(B), 900 series; Federal 800; Ilco-Unican 67 in all its variants; International 2000; JIS 4100; JOLI; Kromer 3031, 3031, 3096; LG 1800, 1847, 3330; Precision P67; S&G 6730, 6731, 6741, 6770
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Post Fri Jun 05, 2020 2:25 am

Re: La gard 3390 - downgrade to group 2?

Thank you very much for the list - will check if I can find any of them...
And I live in the Czech Republic - as they say the little country in the heart of Europe.
Kind regards,
Michal
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Post Sat Jun 06, 2020 8:26 am

Re: La gard 3390 - downgrade to group 2?

The Czech republic has a small but very active security hobbyist community, and there are some guys into safe lock manipulation.

If you are interested I can put you in touch with someone there, pm me if you want to know more.

Best wishes,

Michael.
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Post Sun Jun 07, 2020 2:25 pm

Re: La gard 3390 - downgrade to group 2?

PM sent... Thank you very much!
Michal

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