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Post Sat Feb 01, 2020 11:56 am

where to buy hinges

I've googled hinges for safes and haven't had much luck. It would be internal hinges the holes are 2 1/2" apart . Thank you..
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Post Sat Feb 01, 2020 12:05 pm

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It is IMHO very unlikely, that you will be able to buy matching hinges which you just need to mount with screws. You will probably need to build it yourself from bits and pieces.
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Post Sat Feb 01, 2020 12:38 pm

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MartinHewitt wrote:It is IMHO very unlikely, that you will be able to buy matching hinges which you just need to mount with screws. You will probably need to build it yourself from bits and pieces.

The screw holes are shallow about a 1/4" deep I thought mabey to get custom hinges and have them welded. Then I thought those holes worked fine before. The door has two good size hole at the same end for bolts so they engaged in the frame so it would make it harder to prey open.. I really enjoy this shit. I would love to get a welder and learn how to use it for this kind of stuff
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Post Sat Feb 01, 2020 2:25 pm

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Arc welding equipment should not be to expensive and can be useful for other applications too.
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Post Sun Feb 02, 2020 12:25 am

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Try "Safe Deposit Hinges'

Lockmasters and a few others show some listed.

For something that old, you'll probably have to adapt a newer hinge to it.
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Post Sun Feb 02, 2020 11:40 am

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Ok I seen the hinges at lockmasters. They don't have any information where the holes for the screws line up or how far apart. All the stores around Buffalo have nothing that even comes close. It looks like I'm going to make them. Thanks again..
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Post Mon Feb 03, 2020 12:24 am

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AL usher69 wrote: It would be internal hinges the holes are 2 1/2" apart .


The holes are always on the inside. Most of the old hinges were actually external.

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L4R3L2 wrote:The holes are always on the inside. Most of the old hinges were actually external.


The hinges need to be on the outside to allow for the thickness of the door to swing into the jamb. An internal hinge would have to be U-shaped and recessed into the jamb in order to swing around the external part of the hinge side of the jamb for the door to clear.

Some of the hinges on lockmasters would work well. The challenge will be to find one the correct length. If is is shorter it will leave gaps at each end. The gaps could be filled with steel strap welded in. Then fabricate a frame/jamb to fit.

Another option would be to use a set of the Lefebure hinges from that site.

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They would require a notch to be cut at each corner of the door. Either hinge will require drilling the door but that is easier than building a hinge. An alternative to building a wall safe is to make a wall mount display. I did this with a LeFebure door I was given by a friend and it makes for a nice conversation piece. You can also display the combo and have your friends try to dial and open it. Here are a couple pictures of that project. You can see how that style of hinge mounts. A couple of the hinges from lockmasters with filling the gaps would be the easiest. Make sure the hinge is made for your door thickness.

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Post Mon Feb 03, 2020 2:20 pm

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L4R3L2 wrote:
AL usher69 wrote: It would be internal hinges the holes are 2 1/2" apart .


The holes are always on the inside. Most of the old hinges were actually external.

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Thanks for the ideas and pics. This is the forum with really good advice and people willing to help..
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Post Mon Feb 03, 2020 3:35 pm

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00247 wrote:
L4R3L2 wrote:The holes are always on the inside. Most of the old hinges were actually external.


The hinges need to be on the outside to allow for the thickness of the door to swing into the jamb. An internal hinge would have to be U-shaped and recessed into the jamb in order to swing around the external part of the hinge side of the jamb for the door to clear.

Some of the hinges on lockmasters would work well. The challenge will be to find one the correct length. If is is shorter it will leave gaps at each end. The gaps could be filled with steel strap welded in. Then fabricate a frame/jamb to fit.

Another option would be to use a set of the Lefebure hinges from that site.

Popeye.jpg


They would require a notch to be cut at each corner of the door. Either hinge will require drilling the door but that is easier than building a hinge. An alternative to building a wall safe is to make a wall mount display. I did this with a LeFebure door I was given by a friend and it makes for a nice conversation piece. You can also display the combo and have your friends try to dial and open it. Here are a couple pictures of that project. You can see how that style of hinge mounts. A couple of the hinges from lockmasters with filling the gaps would be the easiest. Make sure the hinge is made for your door thickness.

LeFEBRUREXX.jpg


100_6680.JPG


100_6684.JPG


Nice pics, and some good advice for sure. I'm still thinking wall safe but if I don't I have a old sawing machine in the cabinate. I was going to take the machine out and it have a push in door in front that's what I'm thinking as well frame it in make it secure and the wooden door wood hide it out of site out of mind. Anyone looking at it would just see the old singer machine on top. Well anyways thank you again for the advice.
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Post Fri Feb 07, 2020 2:17 pm

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Look into weld on bullet hinges. I’ve used them a lot.

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Post Mon Feb 10, 2020 3:37 pm

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L4R3L2 wrote:
AL usher69 wrote: It would be internal hinges the holes are 2 1/2" apart .


The holes are always on the inside. Most of the old hinges were actually external.

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Thanks for those pics now that I have some ideas I'll start gathering parts and put them together. Thanks
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Post Sun Feb 16, 2020 12:29 am

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You might try Underwood Safe and Vault in Broken Bow OK.

They buy out a lot of old bank stuff and if you have some dimensional info and pics they might be able to help.

Real nice people to deal with.
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Post Sun Feb 16, 2020 3:34 pm

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SafecrackinSammmy wrote:You might try Underwood Safe and Vault in Broken Bow OK.

They buy out a lot of old bank stuff and if you have some dimensional info and pics they might be able to help.

Real nice people to deal with.

Okay that sounds like something I'll be trying. Thanks

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