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Post Fri Jun 28, 2019 3:18 am

Re: Old safe, new manipulator :-)

Congratulations!
How about a look at the safe lock?
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Post Fri Jun 28, 2019 5:09 am

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Congratulations! Not only you have a nice safe, you also got some antique toilet paper :D

Cheers :)
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Post Fri Jun 28, 2019 6:25 am

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Wow, that's a real treasure!

To answer your questions: LRL and RLR is possible, but the numbers shift on W1 and W2.
In case you wonder ... Martin Hewitt is a fictional detective in stories by Arthur Morrison:
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Post Sat Jun 29, 2019 5:58 pm

Re: Old safe, new manipulator :-)

Glad you got it!
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Post Sun Sep 15, 2019 4:45 pm

Re: Old safe, new manipulator :-)

jharveee wrote:Congratulations!
How about a look at the safe lock?


You got it! Anyone know how I would change the combo? :-)

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Post Sun Sep 15, 2019 6:02 pm

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Thanks for the photos of the lock! Yet another lock I've never seen.(So many). Someone here may be able to identify it now. What a nice safe to come across.
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Post Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:17 pm

Re: Old safe, new manipulator :-)

Most locks allow to modify the wheels, either with a change key or manually (movable pin/screws, press fit of two wheel parts). The visible wheel surely does not allow this, perhaps the other two do, but that is IMHO not very likely. Less advanced locks allow only to change the position how the lock is connected with its wheel. That shifts only the combination and the shift can be determined normally easily. Simpler locks do not allow to change the combination at all. In this case a combination change is only possible by a change of wheels. Perhaps it is possible to change the order of the wheels, but that is only doable of there are two wheels of the same type. In your case with three wheels there might be three wheels types. 1) drive wheel connected to the dial with one pin on the dial side, 2) standard wheel with two pins, 3) end wheel with one pin on the drive wheel side. If a wheel is the same on both sides it could be possible to turn it over. You photos show nicely the bolt work, but not good enough the lock mechanics to really answer these questions. It can probably be seen only with a disassembled lock. I am not sure it would be worth the effort to disassemble the lock just for changing the combination as it is pretty unlikely that you can really choose a combination you want.
In case you wonder ... Martin Hewitt is a fictional detective in stories by Arthur Morrison:
Martin Hewitt, Investigator Chronicles of Martin Hewitt
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