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Post Sun Mar 24, 2019 2:08 pm

Looking for Hollywood lock manipulation scene

I will do a presentation about lock manipulation in April and I am looking for short Hollywood movie sequences as illustration. I can find only the Kremlin Letter snippet where a lock is manipulated with feet. In Moonraker is a scene with a small x-ray device, but I can't find it online. And I can't find anything classical with stethoscope and clicking sounds. Any pointers?
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Post Sun Mar 24, 2019 2:24 pm

Re: Looking for Hollywood lock manipulation scene

I don't think that scene will be useful to you.
I saw the film again a couple of years ago. The x-ray device shows a S&G6730, but the safe itself is a 3 letter clicker lock.
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Post Sun Mar 24, 2019 2:27 pm

Re: Looking for Hollywood lock manipulation scene

On Her Majesty's Secret Service has him open a safe too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-I2aSJKaT6o

This may be usefull
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctxpzf5-XuU

I think "The Italian Job" had a fairly realistic representation.

Where are you doing your presentation ?
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Post Sun Mar 24, 2019 3:33 pm

Re: Looking for Hollywood lock manipulation scene

I am looking more for the unrealistic representations as a sample what is not working. (My favorite is still in The Kremlin Letter.) The Bond samples are quite good for this purpose although the stethoscope is missing.

I am doing it in Hamburg end of April. I just noticed it is completely booked. 65 people. Wow.
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Post Mon Mar 25, 2019 12:44 am

Re: Looking for Hollywood lock manipulation scene

best realistic one I can think of was ' the escapologist'
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Post Mon Mar 25, 2019 8:11 pm

Re: Looking for Hollywood lock manipulation scene

Italian Job underwater https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybKjVVad4NE&t=17s (wait what? S&G locks dont click like that!)

Italian Job https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA6hIAZKEh4&t=2m5s (wait what? it clicks and fence drops in at 50??!?)
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Post Tue Mar 26, 2019 12:30 am

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjonzCMjcT0 Don't know if this is useful.
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Post Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:45 pm

Re: Looking for Hollywood lock manipulation scene

The James Bond ones are IMHO the best. A tiny bit realistic, but not to much.

50 ... If it were a real opening, I would say someone put the spline key into the wrong slot. But is a movie and they try to show some magic dialing. The Bond movies somehow show how it works even so it would not work in reality.
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Post Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:27 pm

Re: Looking for Hollywood lock manipulation scene

MartinHewitt wrote:The James Bond ones are IMHO the best. A tiny bit realistic, but not to much.

50 ... If it were a real opening, I would say someone put the spline key into the wrong slot. But is a movie and they try to show some magic dialing. The Bond movies somehow show how it works even so it would not work in reality.


I hope that in your talk, you discuss how hollywood feels an intense need to add clicking noises to lock dials being turned.

I am also packing up the locks tonight to send to you this week, so you have them in time for the presentation =)

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Post Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:56 pm

Re: Looking for Hollywood lock manipulation scene

Thanks! Unfortunately I didn't get the Mosler Group 1, because the clicking sounds will be my major topic.

No, not really. Main topics will be "How does a lock work" and "How can a lock (6730) be manipulated". Basically what is written in the books squeezed into 1 1/2 hours and illustrated by some self-directed movies. Probably at the end a bit about manipulation protection and at the beginning some safe folklore.
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Post Thu May 02, 2019 8:19 am

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How did the presentation go ?
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Post Thu May 02, 2019 10:45 am

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Reasonably well. Sadly the sound did not work. So I had to describe the clicking sounds.
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Post Wed May 08, 2019 5:30 am

Re: Looking for Hollywood lock manipulation scene

I'm doing pretty much exactly that talk at OzSecCon in a month - although I have to jam it into an hour, plus a hands on workshop afterwards for those interested. Really looking forward to the challenge of starting with a room full of guys who little or nothing about the 6730...and lighting the fire in at least a few of them.
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Post Fri May 10, 2019 12:54 am

Re: Looking for Hollywood lock manipulation scene

Just wanted to say...

I think what you guys are doing is fantastic.
Devoting some of your time and energy to
tryn' convey some of this stuff to folks.

As you already know, very few are likely to
continue with it. However, you might just help
spark a lifelong pursuit within one or two of 'em.

Keep up the great work!
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Post Fri May 10, 2019 5:03 am

Re: Looking for Hollywood lock manipulation scene

How about "Thief" with James Caan. Mostly he drills or burns safes but maybe there's a picking scene. The opening is great, I remember that much.

Oh, hell. I just scrolled up and saw that I'm a little late. Sorry.
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