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Star floor safe with a twist

PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 2:23 am
by Notaneasytarget
What I have here is an E rated star door, complete with a TL-15 rating tag. Internally. it's comparable to their C rated door, with the addition of 1/2" extra steel in the door. The body of the safe is made of 1" thick plate, making this a real bruiser.

But now the twist:

This safe will open regardless of the direction of the dial.

I understand the usual procedure of dialing these open, but what would allow me to reverse the dialing directions and still have the lock operate??

I tried reverse dialing my other stars and got now where.

Any ideas???

Re: Star floor safe with a twist

PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 7:08 pm
by Squelchtone
Notaneasytarget wrote:What I have here is an E rated star door, complete with a TL-15 rating tag. Internally. it's comparable to their C rated door, with the addition of 1/2" extra steel in the door. The body of the safe is made of 1" thick plate, making this a real bruiser.

But now the twist:

This safe will open regardless of the direction of the dial.

I understand the usual procedure of dialing these open, but what would allow me to reverse the dialing directions and still have the lock operate??

I tried reverse dialing my other stars and got now where.

Any ideas???


This seems like the opposite of a problem. Why does this cause you to add extra ?????? marks? I was under the impression that movable flys make it so combinations can be dialed from either direction on modern locks.

Whats the concern here?

Re: Star floor safe with a twist

PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2019 6:24 pm
by L4R3L2
Notaneasytarget wrote:But now the twist:

This safe will open regardless of the direction of the dial.

I understand the usual procedure of dialing these open, but what would allow me to reverse the dialing directions and still have the lock operate??

I tried reverse dialing my other stars and got now where.

Any ideas???


With dimensional differences between the parts compounding, movable flies don't always allow for reverse dialing, nor are they designed to. Movable flies were made to allow using all numbers for combinations. However, a lock with wheels having well matched movable flies will allow for reverse dialing. Yours does, but your others are off enough that it doesn't work for them. It just depends on the dimensions of the individual parts as they are thrown together at the time they were assembled.