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Any Risk Practicing Manipulation



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Post Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:52 am

Any Risk Practicing Manipulation

We know that beginners picking a lock can sometimes cause damage.

Is there any risk of damage in beginners practicing manipulation on a safe?

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Post Thu Aug 31, 2017 12:54 pm

Re: Any Risk Practicing Manipulation

Do not practice on safes that are in use (sporting rules and common sense).

There exists a risk that the lock fails in some of multiple ways and doesn't work anymore. It also creates unnecessary wear in the lock.


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Post Thu Aug 31, 2017 12:56 pm

Re: Any Risk Practicing Manipulation

Yes: it's addictive!

As long as you don't smash the drive pins on a spring loaded fence, or push the handle too hard on a direct drive, I see no risk.

Enjoy :)

EDIT: I agree with Jaakko that the lock gets some wear, but it's nothing like picking a lock. And of course it must be your safe, not someone else's.
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Post Thu Aug 31, 2017 3:16 pm

Re: Any Risk Practicing Manipulation

I would not do it if it is not necessary. A safe lock is tested in Europe for 10000 openings. It is not really that much and now it must be splitted between manipulation and opening. If something breaks then you have a situation.
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Post Fri Sep 01, 2017 6:05 pm

Re: Any Risk Practicing Manipulation

I'm not particularly worried about damaging my locks since I bought them exclusively for manipulation. However, one thing you could try to save your contact points for a bit longer would be to loosen the spring that drops the fence. Inertia is likely a bigger problem for higher speeds, and it is harder to pinpoint the contact points exactly since there's less pressure, but it could give you some extra spins. Much like picking with a lighter hand on the tension wrench.


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Post Sat Sep 02, 2017 2:06 pm

Re: Any Risk Practicing Manipulation

Be careful when changing combinations.. If you dont do it correctly it can mess up the lock
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