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Re: Cole file cabinet with safe

PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 1:38 pm
by Riyame
oetkenky1 wrote:Could someone help me by decoding this N552674 or provide me with the details on how to decode. I've read the entire thread and have some guesses at how the decoding works but I can't be sure as it isn't explicitly spelled out. I need to open this after an unexpected family death. Thanks for any help.



If you had read the entire thread you would see that there is no way to "decode" that number. It is simply a serial number. Look here to find a tech to open it up. http://www.savta.org/savta_tech.php

Re: Cole file cabinet with safe

PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:47 pm
by geissepeter
Riyame wrote: If you had read the entire thread you would see that there is no way to "decode" that number. It is simply a serial number. Look here to find a tech to open it up. http://www.savta.org/savta_tech.php


There are ways to decode the code, it's just not published in this thread. Just ask nicely and you will be helped. Unfortunately, it's not me that can help you.

Re: Cole file cabinet with safe

PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:48 pm
by oetkenky1
Don't let the post above discourage you from asking. My post was responded to by someone without hours asking for the diameter of the dial (which I forgot to include on my post even though I did read the entire thread). After providing that I had the safe open in a few more hours thanks to the help of an anonymous friend on this forum.

Re: Cole file cabinet with safe

PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2019 12:54 am
by L4R3L2
Key codes are codes that require a reference source to "decode". There's no magic or mathematical formula that can be used to translate the letters/numbers directly into key cuts. I have a feeling it's the same here. i.e. there's no formula to derive the combination from the serial number, but the serial number can be used to derive the combination through the use of a separate, and restricted reference.

Re: Cole file cabinet with safe

PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 6:04 pm
by citRon
Greetings! I joined this forum hoping for some help; I found it after googling 'Cole Steel Cabinet Combo'.
I picked up one of the large file cabinets with a locking door and the small combo safe from a guy off Facebook marketplace locally. He said it had been in his uncle's shop for decades, then sat in storage with everything for 20 years...I had agreed to buy it as he said the combination was written inside.
As it turns out, it was somebody's shorthand code for the combination, not real numbers! For the price, I figured it was worth the gamble since it's locked in the open position.

I'm doing background investigations for the Fed Gov't as a Contractor working from home- retired as a Det. from the PD here. This locking cabinet meets the Gov't's requirement for 'double locking' documents, the first being the home's door locks...so this cabinet will do everything I need, and fits my home office vintage look- desk, lamps, phone, etc are from the 40's or repros.

Reading here guided me to the handwritten code in marker on the inside of the back wall. "N256692".

If someone could help me with how to get the original combination from that, I'd sure appreciate it! If the combo has been changed and that doesn't work, I'll go to plan 'B' of resetting it.

oh...and I'm not sure which direction it turns- L,R,L...or R,L,R...

Re: Cole file cabinet with safe

PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 9:06 pm
by bitbuster
L3-R2-L1-and then R to stop. If that doesn't work then L4-R3-L2-R to stop. If door is open, look through peephole in back of lock to determine combo.

Re: Cole file cabinet with safe

PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 7:55 am
by citRon
bitbuster wrote:L3-R2-L1-and then R to stop. If that doesn't work then L4-R3-L2-R to stop. If door is open, look through peephole in back of lock to determine combo.


Awesome, thanks. When I'm looking through the peephole, I'm watching for a 'gap' during each turn, correct?

Re: Cole file cabinet with safe

PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 8:29 am
by bitbuster
Line up the gates and then last turn right to open.

Re: Cole file cabinet with safe

PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 8:33 am
by MartinHewitt
The hole is there for the purpose of finding the combination of the lock. The wheel directly behind this hole is for the first number. All wheels have one gap = gate which needs to be put behind this hole. So turn left until this gate of the first wheel aligns with the hole and note first number. Then switch direction until the gate of the second wheel appears there and not number. Then switch direction and do the same for the third wheel.

Re: Cole file cabinet with safe

PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 3:35 pm
by citRon
Woo! I did it! You guys rock!! I got L95,R60,L19 then right about 9, I could be 'off' a 1/2 to 1 number either way and it still works, I guess these things loosen up over time? I don't know what year it was made, but the sticker name on the inside has a 5 digit phone number!

Now my next task is to see if there's a way to figure out the keyed handle for the outer door, to get a replacement key.

Re: Cole file cabinet with safe

PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 4:23 pm
by MHM
Well done mate, seriously. All you have to remember is that these things are simply elaborate mechanical puzzles. Figure out how the puzzle works, and hey presto. Not only are you beating the lock, but it's a hell of a lot of fun. And believe me, it gets addictive...

Re: Cole file cabinet with safe

PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 4:57 pm
by citRon
yep...neighbor across the street has a safe he was given, locked of course...Ive been wanting to play with that for a while now...

Re: Cole file cabinet with safe

PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 6:24 pm
by daveypick
Hello, I'm new to the forum and was hoping someone here could help me determine the combination for an old Cole filing cabinet I bought. Fortunately, the keys were available so I could locate the serial on the back wall. The serial number is N551063, and the dial diameter is 3 inches.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!

Re: Cole file cabinet with safe

PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:53 pm
by wroundey
Just picked up an old Cole steel cabinet with a combination lock behind one door. The number written in the back of the cabinet is N703886. Any help in decoding this to identify the combination would be greatly appreciated

Re: Cole file cabinet with safe

PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:29 pm
by GWiens2001
I have sent daveypick and wroundey each a PM.

Gordon