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Statistics: Posted by selim — Sat Feb 18, 2017 2:15 pm

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Gordon

Statistics: Posted by GWiens2001 — Sat Feb 18, 2017 12:59 am

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macgng wrote:

KeyPicking T-Shirt design contest?

If elbowmacaroni gives a thumbs up as well, I'd go for that. Maybe something like user submitted designs and then see which one we want to use. Could even make it an annual thing, a limited run of Keypicking shirts each year with a different user-submitted design each time.

I have a box of locks here donated by Selim. Another box in the garage, I'll have to go check the box in order to remember who donated those (whoever it was, I apologize for my poor memory). I'd put together a selection of locks as a prize for the winner.

Statistics: Posted by MBI — Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:04 pm

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i wanna kp t-shirt!!!!

Statistics: Posted by macgng — Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:06 pm

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iie wrote:

ok, so the RR thread showed wafers labeled 2 and 4, offset measured to be 40 and 80 deg

If the max cut in that 6 cut key pictured above is 80 deg rather than 90...

80 / 4 is 20 deg ... 0 - 20 - 40 - 60 - 80 could be correct... the 40 and 60 are a 2/3 disc...

I guess I can make keys from both sets of angle and see which works better

Here's the link i remember seeing for the sales literature. It describes the '83 lock as having 6 disc's

http://www.stanleyhydraulics.com/sites/ ... 0Sheet.pdf

any ideas why they have such different numbers of combinations for keyed alike and keyed differently locks?

est. 2400 for Keyed Alike

est. 1600 for Keyed Different

I've screwed up - the one I have is a 0881 - the 0883 is really an entirely different lock (it's much smaller and has a different core). I haven't measured the angles in the small ones, therefore the information I posted earlier doesn't apply to your lock. Sorry 'bout that. I have one of the smaller ones around here somewhere, I'll see if I can dig up some info on it.

I'll also compare the classic Abloy blanks with that key and see if they might work.

Statistics: Posted by tpark — Wed Jan 18, 2017 5:29 am

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If the max cut in that 6 cut key pictured above is 80 deg rather than 90...

80 / 4 is 20 deg ... 0 - 20 - 40 - 60 - 80 could be correct... the 40 and 60 are a 2/3 disc...

I guess I can make keys from both sets of angle and see which works better

Here's the link i remember seeing for the sales literature. It describes the '83 lock as having 6 disc's

http://www.stanleyhydraulics.com/sites/ ... 0Sheet.pdf

any ideas why they have such different numbers of combinations for keyed alike and keyed differently locks?

est. 2400 for Keyed Alike

est. 1600 for Keyed Different

Statistics: Posted by iie — Wed Jan 18, 2017 12:13 am

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iie wrote:

I found a picture of a key with 6 cuts:

I think this key codes to (tip-bow) 1 2 4 0 3 2

That 4 cut looks like 90 deg.

That doesn't really supports the 0 - 15 - 30 - 45 - 60 idea

90 / 3 is 30 deg, steps would be 0 - 30 -60 -90

90 / 4 is 22.5 deg, steps would be 0 - 22.5 - 45 - 67.5 - 90 <----This looks right

90 / 5 is 18 deg, steps wold be 0 - 18 - 36 - 54 - 72 -90

The two cuts I'm labeling 2 look close enough, If they are different cuts, it could be 1 2 5 0 4 3

That would require 18 deg steps.

Check the railroad padlock key thread - it's got information/measurment about the disks in these locks.

If you take the disks out, the value is stamped onto the disk. I think a 4 cut is about 80 degrees based on measurements I took from railroad environmental locks. The consumer lock I have has 5 disks, and most of the railroad locks have 3 disks. I think the angles are closer to 0-20-40-60-80. Standard Abloy angle increment is 18 degrees (for classic and profile) so it could be that increment, but since the disks/keys are different, there's a possibility that a nonstandard increment is used for these locks.

Statistics: Posted by tpark — Tue Jan 17, 2017 12:01 am

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I think this key codes to (tip-bow) 1 2 4 0 3 2

That 4 cut looks like 90 deg.

That doesn't really supports the 0 - 15 - 30 - 45 - 60 idea

90 / 3 is 30 deg, steps would be 0 - 30 - 60 - 90

90 / 4 is 22.5 deg, steps would be 0 - 22.5 - 45 - 67.5 - 90 <----This looks right

90 / 5 is 18 deg, steps wold be 0 - 18 - 36 - 54 - 72 -90

The two cuts I'm labeling 2 look close enough, If they are different cuts, it could be 1 2 5 0 4 3

That would require 18 deg steps.

Statistics: Posted by iie — Mon Jan 16, 2017 10:41 pm

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